• ynthrepic@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    We may have got here eventually anyway, but things are a lot worse for Americans right now because of Trump’s Republicans. Let’s not lose sight of that when complaining about the shit they have in common.

    There’s also nobody who might emerge out of the right who would bring something that will make life for everyone better. Only the Democrats have a chance of doing that and engineering a better system that might eventuallyundermine their own political hegemony. Would they without pressure? Of course not. But the right will never even be pressured to do anything like that intentionally by it’s base, almost by definition basically.

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      Only the Democrats have a chance of doing that and engineering a better system that might eventuallyundermine their own political hegemony.

      No they don’t

      But the right will never even be pressured to do anything like that intentionally by it’s base,

      The Democrats couldn’t be pressured to stop doing genocide even at the cost of losing the election

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        7 hours ago

        I don’t think you’re listening. That’s one of the issues both sides share in common that sucks. Doesn’t change the fact they’re our only hope.

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          Listen to yourself. You’re saying the Democrats are our only hope yet they also don’t listen.

          Democrats do listen, but only to those with power. Before anything can change for the better we need power for ourselves.

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                You can and should support them as they align with your values, but you’ll never get enough votes for them to have any chance of overthrowing the big two. It has to be changed from within, unless you’re prepared to try violence.

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                  Since changing from within is impossible, and voting in a new party is highly unlikely, it seems the revolutionaries were right all along.

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          I’m listening, I just think you’re wrong.

          And I brought up that issue specific to show that the Democrats also “will never even be pressured to do anything like that intentionally by it’s base”

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            5 hours ago

            Progressive social change has always occurred under the auspices of the left-most of the two major parties. That’s just how it overwhelmingly is. What’s not to agree with? How do you think progress will happen next time it happens?