• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    The thing is that your asking tankies to be pragmatic about policy.

    This “pragmatism” is how we got here in the first place.

    Its easy for the .ml types to cry and wait for a perfect policy or candidate.

    We’re not looking for a perfect candidate under bourgeois democracy, because we know it will never happen. Previously:

    The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

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      16 hours ago

      We’re not looking for a perfect candidate under bourgeois democracy, because we know it will never happen. Previously:

      In either case you’re not doing shit and you’re not a serious movement. Tankies don’t vote to minimize harm, nor do they vote to expand the progressive wing.

      You all are effectively the ratchet democratsyou laughs at because you ultimately won’t show or organize for anything. Tankies aren’t serious people.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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        7 hours ago

        Schrodinger’s leftists; simultaneously the reason the Democrats lost the election and the biggest obstacle to progress, but also not a serious movement.

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          3 hours ago

          Non.voting is the largest block going back multiple cycles. Trolls like you are concerned but not enough to show up. I’m aware of your trolling, so I won’t entertain you much more

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            3 hours ago

            I’m aware of your trolling, so I won’t entertain you much more

            In other words, you’re wrong and you know it, but you’re too huffy to admit it, so you’re going to try to pretend like it’s too below your dignity to actually respond to someone who disagrees with you. You’re just so self evidently right, after all.