“Apple CEO Tim Cook plans to donate $1 million to Donald Trump’s inauguration fund, reports Axios. The donation will be a personal donation directly from Cook rather than a donation from Apple”

I’ll defend Apple as being the least shitty of the big tech giants but I can’t defend this.

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      Or it is protection money. “Nice apple you got there, would be a shame if anyone took a bite out of that”….

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        Why would Tim Cook be assosiated with Apple in trumps mind?

        Apple is owned by Tim Apple.

        Kind of strange that this line cook is able to afford a small 1 million dollar loan…what? You think trump knows that a loan is different than a donation? You think he knows you’re supposed to pay back loans?

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          I am very sure Trump does not actually think, at best he works based on instinct, but so does his chaotic band of mouth-breathing, blood-seeking raging insurrectionists.

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        If any company could insulate itself from Trump’s agenda, it would be Apple with its “fuck you” money.

        This is cowardly and craven.

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      Needs to make sure there’s a loophole for Apple production when more China tariffs hit.

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          No, they hate all gay people. They are just lower on the list right now, but they are definitely there.

          First they came for…

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          And open guys, and gays suffering for our sexuality. None of them visited Roy Cohn as he died of AIDS. Tim Cook may get spared from raids at first, but if it goes as bad as we fear he’s going to have nobody willing to defend him

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        They don’t hate gays, they hate honesty, and also having social and legal limitations for various divergent traits allows blackmail and defamation.

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          They don’t hate gays

          Yeah, they only cheer on the concept of queer genocide and talk about how queer people groom children to support the idea.

          But they don’t hate them. Jesus loves them after all.

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      It’s absolutely wild how the first time around, everyone left of center was against Trump, even if it was only posturing. This time around, he’s even worse and the same people are literally supporting him.

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    I’ll defend Apple as being the least shitty of the big tech giants but I can’t defend this.

    Why would you do that though? The only thing I’m aware of that they do even remotely better than anyone else is privacy. But it’s not that much better, and it comes at the cost of gestures at everything else

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      IDK why people say they have better privacy: They just settled a lawsuit over evesdroping using Siri. I think they probably have less interest than Google in selling data for advertising, mostly likely using it internally for their ecosystem so they probably come across more privacy focused but I assume they snoop just as much as any other big tech company.

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        less interest than Google in selling data for advertising

        Google don’t sell data. The data is what makes them valuable, so it wouldn’t make sense. If they did sell data, the other big tech companies would just buy their data to remove their competitive advantage.

        What Google actually sells is your attention. Advertisers can target people based on demographic data, things you like, etc, but the advertiser never sees the data used for targeting.

        You can use Google and Facebook’s Ads Manager sites yourself and see exactly what advertisers see.

        On the other hand, Apple mostly keep their collected data for their own ad network. Yes, they have one - it’s mostly just used for ads for “recommended” apps in the app store, but last I heard, they have plans to expand it.

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          Yeah apologies, that’s a good point - thanks for adding more context!

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            No worries - it’s a pretty common misconception that tech companies sell data. I’ve worked on ads systems at big tech companies so I’ve seen some parts of how it works. The companies are very protective of their data as it’s essentially their highest-value asset. Employees can’t see any of your data either - it’s very tightly locked down, with strict ACLs and audit logging.

            Large advertisers generally don’t get any special access either - the tools/apps that large advertisers use are mostly the same as what small advertisers / individuals can see and use.

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      The only thing I’m aware of that they do even remotely better than anyone else is privacy.

      Where did you hear this? Its my understanding that they are one of the worst when it comes to privacy.

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        Siri “unintentionally” (because it’s a sentient being right?) recording entire conversations def feels pretty terrible.

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      They do better about privacy because they make enough money from their inflated prices and blind brand loyalty where they dont have to become an ad company like google. Google is very good at protecting their users data from third parties, as long as they can still collect all of it.

      Apple (currently) doesn’t collect a lot of data which allows them to design products with security as a primary component instead of as an afterthought

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        They collect everything. Every detail of your usage. They may not sell it, but your entire life is on an apple server

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          I’ll get downvoted because Lemmy has a weird hate boner for asking for proof but do you have any proof that they “collect everything”?

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      Like I said, they’re the least shitty. Can you think of a corp that’s better? Google? Fucking Meta? Microsoft?

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        Microsoft didn’t spend multiple decades trying to force their own chargers and ports over universal standards. Not saying any of them are good, but apple is in no way better and has spent years creating contention between consumers. It’s just as likely they sell your tracking data as anyone else, they spend developer time every month making sure their ecosystem is considered better for cultural reasons while being ostensibly worse than competitors for most things. Their phones are generally a year or more behind competitors but they have made-up features that serve no purpose consumers rally around like imessage. They have a tiny sandbox to play in without completely voiding your warranty - Themes instead of real customization. “Blue bubbles”? Are you kidding me? How about allowing any form of tinkering beyond a garden path? How about supporting repair of devices at their actual branded stores? They’re easily up there as one of the worst for consumers at large.

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          I’m really not interested in a long, drawn out debate about this, suffice to say that if you think all the things you listed, most of which are your opinion rather than indisputable fact, somehow make Apple worse than Google, Microsoft, or Meta … well let’s just agree to disagree.

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            The things he listed aren’t opinion lol, they’re proven facts.

            Why don’t we just say that all these mega corps are evil, period?

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        I have my own problems with them, but off the top of my head I think the following tech companies all do better than Apple: Red Hat, Canonical, Framework, Purism, System76, Fairphone.

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    Why does such a thing as an inaugural fund exist? Seems like it’s just to facilitate more corruption!

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      It doesn’t usually. The ‘why’ in the case is because Trump and his team refuse to sign the ethics agreement to get the normal funding from the government.

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    As a Bi man there is something that particularly stings about a well known, openly gay CEO funding a man who is hateful towards LGBTQ+ people. I never really liked him nor apple but it is an extra fuck you.

    Being rich is ultimately the disease as it compels him to appeal to power but I hope the last things hears is “Told you I would kill you last”.

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        The wealthy all seem to understand that class solidarity is more important than any other issue. Why is it taking so long for everyone else to figure that out?

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      There are no real allies in the oligarch class. Temporal alliances or common goals at best. They will (and do) kill for a penny.

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      Hands down, the most effective punishments for these people at the top is to redistribute their wealth so they have to live like everyone else.

      That is legitimately a fate worse than death in their eyes, which should put things into perspective for the rest of us.

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      Peter Thiel is also a gay man, and pulling a lot of these strings behind the scenes.

      It’s oligarchy. Thiel can fuck who ever he wants (and make them disappear when he’s done…) while maintaining political power by sacrificing queer people to the Hour of Hate.

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      Tim cook will never suffer the consequences of anti-gay legislation or the lack of legal protection for gay people.

      Unfortunately, gay people like money too. He cares more about furthering his own personal empire than he does about helping those who have less money than him.

      In the eyes of timmy, the struggles of poor gay people are completely irrelevant to the struggles of rich gay people.

      West was similarly eager to sell out his fans after they made him wealthy so he could suckle on trump’s teat.

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        West was similarly eager to sell out his fans after they made him wealthy so he could suckle on trump’s teat.

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      he is ultra rich, the hateful divide and conquer tactics applied to common people don’t apply to him so he simply does not have any empathy for the matter.

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    He’s doing this to avoid being associated with Apple, but this only highlights that he’s personally a piece of shit, in addition to Apple.

    Fuck him, fuck Apple, and fuck all those other motherfucking bootlickers enabling these fucking fascists.

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      What’s funny (or sad) is that 100 years from now this will be looked at the same was as when Ford or IBM supported the Nazis. Their business won’t hurt long term and Tim Apple will be long dead.

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        IG Farben, Krupp, Thyssen, Boss, Porsche and the list goes on and on and on. Fuck I suspect that even my own grandfather “had stripes” (slang for collaboration with Nazis without yourself being proclaimed nazi) and he even fought them during the invasion of Norway.

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          History doesn’t repeat. It rhymes.

          Buckle in kiddo it’s gonna be a fun couple of decades if we survive it.

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      He should just be honest and said “this $1m is a mandatory payment to trump so that he exempts Apple from tariffs, no other reason”, of course, then it’s an obvious quid pro quo.

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      This is one of the reasons why I am gradually untying myself from the Apple ecosystem, and all of propriety/big tech; especially US based.

      When push comes to shove capitalism will not resist fascism. They will ignore all stated virtue signals and choose profits.

      Choosing E2E encrypted FOSS products, that are interoperable with FOSS standards/formats and do not lock you into walled gardens, are the only viable long term solution.

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        This might actually become the year of Linux on the desktop for me.

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          Try PopOS if you’re coming from Mac, it’s pretty easy to get used to!

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            My only-ever-windows SO just got a computer with PopOS on it (default) and it took some getting used to, but he loves it. I was like, “you know this is a Mac OS clone, right? 😏” and he was like 🤯

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      Suprised? Had you put him on a pedastle in your mind? Did you think him to be more than a sniveling greedy capitalist prick? I’m sorry for this very harsh fall from artificial grace if so. I’d be careful about holding anyone with more than a few hundred million dollars to lose in too high esteem in the future.

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    Amazon, Meta, Uber, OpenAI’s Sam Altman, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Coinbase, Toyota, Ford, GM, AT&T, Black & Decker, and Charter Communications are also making donations to Trump’s inauguration fund.

    I guess I never really paid attention before but is it normal for companies to donate to an inauguration fund? It sure seems like a government sanctioned protection racket.

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    No matter how much money they spend on this party they’re still celebrating putting a convicted con man in the White House - whoopeee! - while the chumps who voted for him say, “What… my meds aren’t covered anymore?”

    Congratulations on flushing your country down a solid gold toilet, “conservatives”.

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    They’re being shaken down. Same as Mark Zuckerberg being summoned to a meeting with Trump and the next day paying $1m to the same fund.

    I’m betting these meetings went something like, “You don’t want a president as an enemy, do you? Cough up.”

    And don’t think of it as a tax on the rich - it’s not going towards the benefit of the American people. It’s extortion.

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    These CEOs are funding hate, violence and the end of American democracy - they have enough power, money and influence to oppose, yet they don’t. They decided that a few must be sacrificed for the greater good profit.

    Something happened on the 4th of December. Today is the 4th of January. Just in case anyone’s calendar app is stuck closed. Interesting if true…

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    All these Billionaires PAYING Trump MILLIONS of Dollars is PROOF he CANT be Bought!

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      None of these companies would touch Trump with a 10 foot pole in the situation wasn’t so dire. But he is the next president, and he is known to respond to stuff like this. Bend knee, kiss his ass and carry a huge wad of cash. This is just the cost of doing business, and even if a vocal minority cries out most people still buy iPhones, Teslas and shop at Amazon and Wal-Mart.

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        And go where? Where in the world is safe right now? I thought about living in the Philippines with my family, but China is probably waging war soon. Europe? With the way America is headed and the war is going? Let’s assume Ukraine wins: Europe is out of gas and will militarize and right wing governments are rising with German nationalism leading the battle drums, Ukraine gonna be in an economic slump, Russia is gonna be subservient and dependent on China because its economy is gone without a win.

        That leaves countries with metropolises that are suffering from westerners gentrifying their neighborhoods with the USD being strong in these places. We are really going to make the poor in other nations pay the price for our government’s doing again, but this time by our own choice? That’s not any better imo. Unless you are leaving with the specific intent on making the place you are going better, stay home please

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          Do you mean safe or safer than the U.S.? Because you can’t be guaranteed of absolute safety anywhere. If you’re queer or brown, there are a lot of countries where you’ll be safer than the U.S.

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            Fair point. If you are in immediate danger then yeah, not gonna argue. But if you are able to stay and do something, that should be preferable.

            I am brown (Filipino). I won’t be leaving. My sister lives here. My nephew. They can go somewhere safe, but there aren’t many places safe from a hot, land war in this world like the US observably is. Mayyybe Canada, but enjoy that economy.