Windows Recall remains controversial a year after its announcement. Now, the Brave browser has taken new measures to "protect" users from the feature.
  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    7 天前

    Let me know when it is discovered that they in fact replaced MS Recall with their own version that was scraping your data in yet another sketchy attempt to make money.

  • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.comEnglish
    131·
    6 天前

    Now whilst I enjoy all the comments I actually have to add something quickly that explains why this kind of thing happens. I recently worked with a rather old lady to find out why she was having so many issues with technology and stuff. I found out that when she started work in 1986 she was told that the shared password in her department at the local hospital was “password” and so she has used that on everything she can since to remember it… other gems that they used on whole departments included “qwerty” and “123456” and the best one of all “letmeinnow”. On whole shared networks of 100+ machines…

  • NoodlePoint@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    7 天前

    Simplewall allows direct control of internet access of any program and app; you can block CoPilot from accessing the internet.

  • MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.worldEnglish
    86·
    7 天前

    This is about the Smart App Control feature in Win11 that takes screenshots periodically to check for “malicious activity”. its basically a glorified keylogger built into the OS. Firefox should really follow suit and block this too.

  • zewm@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36116·
    8 天前

    Literally nothing will get me to use this crypto scam of a browser.

    • Pamasich@kbin.earth
      21·
      7 天前

      Tbf, anything that isn’t AI Windows blocks the feature. Including regular Windows.

      People just need to not fall for the scam edition and they don’t have to deal with this shit.

        • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          8 天前

          Discord… Still isn’t public?

          They’re certainly talking about it but they haven’t announced a date yet.

          Apologies, I striked the lines out of my previous comment. It simply was an example of how you still can be captured.

      • thann@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        121·
        8 天前

        Actually it does! When youre installing, just delete the windows boot partition and your done!

        • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          4·
          7 天前

          Heck, wipe the entire disk!

          (based on a real life experience)

          (windows just kept standing no matter what partition i deleted so i wiped the disk clean)

        • Novaling@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          7 天前

          I recently decided to switch from using Atomic Fedora to reg KDE Fedora (cause tinkering and bypassing atomic features got on my nerves), and I almost went through with wiping everything and only having Linux installed. And then I realized I probably wouldn’t be able to do some tests for college cause they use anti-cheating software (lockdown browser) which they probably wouldn’t like if I ran it in a VM or wine…

          But man, once I’m out of college, I’m probably wiping Windows for good! Also gonna factory reset that partition so it at least takes way less space on my drive.

          (Side note: the other hesitation is that I’m 90% kernel updates nuked Bluetooth for me around March (It worked when I rolled back to January/February releases) and I do have zoom classes sometimes. Like, do I just have to buy a Bluetooth dongle to deal with this?)

    • hperrin@lemmy.caEnglish
      712·
      8 天前

      That’s not even the worst thing about him. He also invented JavaScript.

        • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          7 天前

          Sure I use that too but you should have at least one chromium based browser for certain features though.

            • Zink@programming.devEnglish
              3·
              7 天前

              This is my setup, and I never actually use ungoogled chromium.

              If I have some kind of issue that I need to work around immediately rather then figure out, I usually just open Firefox and try that.

            • Bluewing@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              7 天前

              Vivaldi is OK, but I would replace it with something else. It’s a pretty busy UI and I have had issues with it freezing in Fedora 42 KDE.

            • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              7 天前

              Yes some tools do not work with Firefox. It‘s a niche but I‘ve run into it a few times just recently. For example with a gamepad enabler tool where Firefox simply won‘t be able to see your USB input.

              • HorseFD@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                7 天前

                The thing is, Firefox follows web standards. Chrome doesn’t always and websites put in custom code that works only with Chrome.

                I’d rather use the browser that follows standards.

                • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  6 天前

                  Well I‘m not saying you should use chromium as your main browser. In fact I think you shouldn‘t. But sometimes there is no way around it. It‘s okay to be realistic about these things.

          • kerntucky@infosec.pubEnglish
            2·
            7 天前

            I’m out of the loop. What are the many problems with Mozilla?

            I saw you mention the Mr. Robot extension in another comment. That looks to be a bad decision but what else are the “many problems?”

            • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
              1·
              3 天前

              Most problems are because of how Mozilla works. According to some devs, they gatekeep some contributions and they don’t really act and communicate with the community like FOSS projects are expected to. They also spend a lot of money on some - useless - stuff. They’re really slow to improve their software and Firefox defaults with some questionable stuff (regular pings, Google bullshit…)

              The Better bird dev talks a bit about this, and you also have some other resources: https://youtu.be/ugnOM2mzgNU (I don’t remember every link and everything I’ve seen but this should be a good start)

    • szymon@programming.devEnglish
      618·
      7 天前

      He could be next husband of Ivanka Trump - I don’t care

      If he provide good service for me - browser which fits my needs. I would even send him money every day

          • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
            151·
            7 天前

            If fascism was a passive philosophy that didn’t hurt anyone then you might have a point. But as you can see recently it’s extremely dangerous and ruins lives.

            You may not want to mingle with politics, but it doesn’t have the same view.

            • NeilBrü@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              6 天前

              One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

              Plato, The Republic bk. 1, 347c

      • Kris@slrpnk.netEnglish
        16·
        7 天前

        That’s the logic of as long as it benefits ME I don’t care and I support them no matter what they do. This same logic has been applied to all the shitty things done in history like slavery, war and so forth, and the reason the world is the way it is.

          • Kris@slrpnk.netEnglish
            12·
            7 天前

            Of course that’s not possible, the issue here is being aware and not caring and in some cases supporting it for convenience and selfishness.

              • Kris@slrpnk.netEnglish
                7·
                7 天前

                In my country, one of the most successful supermarkets is run by a fascist and he uses part of his fortune to finance our local fascist party, which is gaining strength every year by the way. Do we support fascism by buying in that supermarket? What if we suddenly started to boycott the supermarket to hell?

                My point is that they earn profits by using their services and in today’s society money is power. And from where the CEO got his power? From the millions of people with the mindset of “if it benefits me I don’t care”.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1133·
      8 天前

      What does that have to do with the browser? Last I checked, browsers aren’t transphobic.

      You do you, but I personally refuse to make product choices based on the person who makes it. Brave is the least bad chromium browser, so I use it as a backup to my main Gecko-based browser. I’m not a fan of Mozilla either, but that’s irrelevant since I pick my software based on what it does, not based on the management of the company that builds it.

        • RiQuY@lemmy.zipEnglish
          81·
          7 天前

          Vivaldi is not open source, so for me it doesn’t count as a valid option.

        • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          7 天前

          I‘m not even pro Brave but all that ad stuff is opt-in so it doesn‘t matter as long as you don‘t want to see ads. The arguments in this thread are starting to just loop in circles. Essentially using Brave is fine if you stick to the default. There‘s no sleazy stuff if you don‘t enable it and the CEO also doesn‘t make a dime from you if that‘s something you‘re concerned about. You could of course use a different chromium browser if you want but it‘s virtually the same thing.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          21·
          7 天前

          The only two there that bother me are the affiliate code thing (reminds me of the Honey drama) and installing extra software without consent. The first was a bad call and probably related with how their ad replacement stuff works (if anything, they should merely axe affiliate links; Firefox has that as an option), and this"solution" to the latter is pretty odd to me:

          reinstall the browser without admin rights

          Why would a browser need admin rights in the first place? I haven’t used Windows in well over a decade, so I don’t think that particular one would be an issue for me.

          The rest can be grouped as:

          • bugs - bug fixes generally don’t get prioritized until enough users complain; I would be very picky if I was an at risk person (activist or whatever) and would probably only use Tor browser
          • opt-in services
          • their marketing department

          My options for chromium browsers are:

          • something with ineffective ad blocking
          • Opera - I used it before it became a chromium browser, then it went downhill; not FOSS
          • Brave, with all its warts

          Since ad blocking and FOSS are my prerequisites, Brave basically wins by default.

          • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            1·
            7 天前

            Just block with unlock 🙉 why choose browser based on a ad block feature that is worse (injecting own ads/adware and therefore trying to dictate who is allowed to grab your attention) than the ad blocking extension?

            I recommend Firefox, due to best compatibility with uBlock (fuck manifest v3) and additionally have a DNS filter in your network, like pihole or adguard.

            On the go, use wireguard VPN to always be digitally home, and get your ads blocked (as well as tracking organisations) like that.

      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
        91·
        8 天前

        I would not choose to use a product made by people I disagree with but leaving that aside:

        Is it the least bad? Why not degoogled chrome? Or chromium? Even vivaldi seems like a better choice.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          71·
          8 天前

          Ad blocking mostly. That’s literally all I need in a chromium browser, because I only use it on a handful of sites that don’t work properly in Firefox.

          Chromium is also okay, but no ad blocker. I have that installed as well in the really unlikely case that the ad blocker gets in the way.

          99% of my browsing is on a Firefox browser, and 99% of the rest is on Brave. I use it so infrequently the “time saved” metric is a merely seconds.

      • Engywook@lemmy.zipEnglish
        316·
        8 天前

        Actually, I consider Brave the best (or the least bed…) browser on the market. Period. The fact that it isn’t made by Mozilla is a plus for me.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          7 天前

          I don’t like Mozilla either, but here are my priorities in a web browser:

          1. FOSS
          2. Privacy tools - includes ad blocking; I’d actually be okay with ads if they didn’t track me
          3. Promotes open web standards - rendering engine diversity is critical here, I don’t want a repeat of the IE era
          4. Security
          5. Performance

          Firefox ticks all of them, and my issues with Mozilla as an org don’t really come into play. I use a fork on my phone, but I use Firefox on my laptop and desktop because I trust the binaries coming from my Linux distribution maintainers (part of 4).

          • Engywook@lemmy.zipEnglish
            1·
            7 天前

            Good for you. I actively refuse to use it or any of its derivatives to avoid endorsing Mozilla by giving them market share. Additionally, I find that Brave just performs better (and needs one extension less to be functional).

          • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
            1·
            7 天前

            Brave also ticks all of them?

            at this point, Firefox’s development is not very much more open than Chromium’s

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              7 天前

              It doesn’t tick #3, hence why I use a Firefox browser as my main. If they had their own rendering engine, I would consider it as my main. But for now, it’s my backup in case I need a website that doesn’t work on Firefox (i.e. they use something Chrome-specific).