Looks like a cult, tbh.
Kinda feel like we should leave them just to see what happens
They seem like a UK offshoot of the Black Hebrew Israelites.
If they want to live in tents in the forest instead of yelling at people walking by on the street, I suppose that’s an improvement.
Looking forward to an update after the first snow.
Cool and all, but you were not natives of Scotland.
Neither are the Scots if you go back far enough.
All humans are immigrants except MAYBE some Ethiopians still living in the cradle of life.
Idk i feel like 1,000 years should be long enough to naturalize. If they can hold those woods for 1,000 years, they should be considered natives.
Britain with no irony: “You can’t come to a land and act like its yours! We were living here first!”
Well … Do they have a flag?
People living in public woods is okay because colonialism, thanks Lemmy
Well yeah, except the British empire has been dead for long enough that any possible benefits the average non wealthy British person today might have theoretically gained from a colonial past is long gone.
No actual responses just downvotes. Edit 2: forget it the responses were just daft. Downvote away or agree to disagree. I might also suggest reading the odd book on history and particularly economics from a left wing political perspective.
Did you actually just say that with no irony? The “western” world lives in relative luxury because of continued exploitation of the global south.
This is actually silly. Your suggestion that somehow the British empire survived the second world war is plainly nonsense.
Bankers might profit from ‘developing world’ debt. This is not passed onto impoverished former working class British people in any way whatsoever.
You all downvote this then go on about what a con trickle down economics is.
Where do you think your cheap clothes, devices, food, energy, transportation, etc. comes from? Today’s globalism is a direct descendant of colonialism. In fact, many people even call it neo-colonialism.
It is only a ‘direct descendant of colonialism’ in that globalism is the result of capital moving industrial production to countries without collectively bargained labour agreements or environmental protections. It is. BY DEFINITION capital that profits from this, not the average British worker. Consumers do not profit in capitalism. BY DEFINITION. Globalism has only harmed the average British worker, as they are now in competition with the poorest people in the world in terms of selling their labour.
Just as it was the expansion of capital followed by exploitation throughout the world that was ‘colonialism’.
I am done with this. Educate yourself. I will block people who post timewasting replies.
I agree with almost everything you say, except you are ignoring that capital bribes workers in the imperial core with a superior quality of life to maintain a compliant populace to provide a bulwark against the “slavering masses.”
It sounds like you’re anti capitalist and fairly well educated, but it’s a straight up lie to say that capitalism hasn’t increased quality of life for imperial core workers over that of global south.
And yet, here we are, writing in English because it is the lingua franca.
If you honestly think impoverished British people benefit from whatever is in the British Museum in any meaningful way you are completely deluded.
You keep harping on about impoverished Brits as if the poorest Brits aren’t still more wealthy than 90% of the world’s inhabitants.
Like I get it, life is hard for poor people everywhere, but everyone in the imperial core benefits from western dominance. I’d much rather be poor in London than in Mumbai.
You don’t need to benefit to still have it better than the people it was stolen from.
Someone else getting knocked down leaves them worse off even if it doesn’t improve your situation.
I agree with everything you write.
Edit - I will that there is absolute poverty - living on whatever the price of half a big mac a day is (or whatever the current definition is). And there is relative poverty: living on less than 50% of the median household income in a given area.
Compared to people starving or trying to cross seas in small boats relative poverty in the UK is a great place to be, but in fact relative poverty comes with extremely serious health and mental health consequences.
The average former working class person in the UK had and has no say in any UK political policy. The Labour party abandoned the former working class in the 80s, with the final nail in the coffin being when Blair took over in 94, thirty years ago. They have had no political representation whatsoever.
In the reform act of 1865 (might have been 1860 or 1870) (long after slavery had been abolished in the UK) one in seven men (the richest one seventh, based on property ownership) were given the right to vote.
These people had no say whatsoever in the British Empire. Slavery made their lives harder, they didn’t benefit from it. The Elgin marbles were of no benefit to these people whatsoever.
Anyway, like I said, I am done. People just need to read and think a bit more. Poor thinking exists right across the political spectrum. We are all reaping this particular whirlwind.
King Atehene, 36, who was previously an opera singer under the name Kofi Offeh, leads the group, which consists of his wife, Queen Nandi, and their handmaiden Asnat. They claim they are a lost tribe of Hebrews, with their King descended from David the Messiah, and say their ancestors were cast out when Elizabeth I deported native black Jacobites.
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Dang, I’ve seen people with these beliefs but I can’t remember what they call themselves. An American(?) black crypto-jewish religious conspiracy group. They set up on sidewalks and yell at everyone.
Yes! Thank you. They seemed like an angry bunch when I encountered them.
Yes! Thank you. They seemed like an angry bunch when I encountered them.
“The tribe”, “the group” – aka three people.
Also, for the record, I’d like to point out that the Daily Record is a Scottish tabloid.
Sorry, was trying to avoid the daily fail and this seemed to have the funniest title. It does seem like a weird mini sex cult.
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I read the whole article and I still don’t know if it is real. I hate this timeline.
Same. The fact the site had an obscene amount of ads on mobile made it worse weird
Tf is an ad?
I’m skeptical. If these people truly are of a tribe attempting to reclaim stolen land, I support them. But the cynic in me wonders if they’re cosplaying and looking for a con.
They’re African. There were never any Africans living in Scotland before the slave trade.
If it lets them get back to nature and pursue enlightenment, does the story they use to get there really matter?
Yes, if they’re lying to perpetuate fraud.
Isn’t that every religion?
Yes and no. There are true believers and there are charlatans who knowingly swindle people. That much is easily apparent.
That was certainly… a read. I don’t know enough about Jacobites, anyone have any context on that?
To simplify, it was a political group of Catholic conservatives, which fought the Protestant kings and queens. They were not especially black.
They were not especially black.
lol
There’s a group of people who are (rightly) concerned that black folks have been omitted from history, and have overcorrected to claiming that basically all important historical figures ever were black. Another comment in this thread mentioned the Black Israelites, but there’s also the Nation of Islam (nothing Yakub made could be good of course).
Betting the lost black tribe nonsense is a corruption of some African Christian myth. The Christians were already there by the 1st century, and in no small numbers, building churches, all that. There’s a lot of history there I’m ignorant of.
It’s not a thing I thought I’d write someday 😅
They were not especially black.
You say that, but you’re only going off the whitewashed history Queen Elizabeth the 1st created.
This story gets weirder and weirder.
I wonder if they’d like it more or less if people just agreed to let them do it
