This study shows links between Long COVID’s neurological effects, including brain fog and cognitive decline, and brain blood vessel integrity, offering hope for new treatments and diagnostic methods.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-024-01576-9 (open access)
Bringing in a medical perspective since there is a lot of subtle misunderstanding in the comments section:
The source study is not referring to “brain bleeding” or “mini strokes” as a cause of long COVID—the results point more towards a breakdown of the integrity of the blood brain barrier and maybe micro vascular ischemia.
You can essentially think of your central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) as being surrounded by a very selective security system called the Blood Brain Barrier (BBB). The BBB exists to prevent certain chemicals and cell signaling molecules from entering the central nervous system and messing things up. Neurons and many of the cells that support neurons do not regenerate and tolerate stress as well as other parts of the body, which is why the BBB is so important. Through the various assays the primary authors used it seems like in the setting of long COVID there is a breakdown of the BBB—it starts letting things in and out that it shouldn’t be. This leads to inflammation and damage in the brain which likely results in immediate decreased processing ability and also long-term damage (which further leads to decreased processing ability). One of the components which “leaks” in this setting of BBB breakdown are components of the coagulation cascade (the things that make blood clot) which may potentiate small areas of clotting and decreased blood flow (a thing we called micro vascular ischemia—like an ischemic stroke but in very small capillaries). This entire mechanism is similar to (but very different in nuance) “leaky gut syndrome,” where the gut endothelium starts to break down and cause inflammation. I put that out there since leaky gut is gaining more popular understanding these days and may be more familiar for some folks.
As of now there is no available treatment that restores the endothelial integrity of the BBB. Off of the top of my head this study may suggest that more treatments to modulate the inflammsome (roughly—the amount of inflammation in your body) could be beneficial—which sort of tracks since there is some scattered evidence that high dose Omega-3’s help long COVID.
This is an excellent explanation. Thank you for taking the time to write it.
Is there a way to check if one has this condition?
Not exactly—although an MRI w/wout contrast may show some microvascular ischemia or cortical volume loss. Based on the study there may be some clues from secondary inflammatory markers, but those aren’t specific (other things can elevate them beyond long COVID).
I think this will likely remain a clinical diagnosis for several years until we understand more.
Oh this was really very well explained. Thanks a lot for sharing this.
Would you say that the layman’s metaphor for this is like the brain suddenly living in a drafty house?
I think in some ways that could work.
I think a better one may be fish living in a tank that suddenly had its filter break (fish being the brain, and the filter being the BBB).
Thanks
I’ve been waiting since 2021 for my sense of smell and taste to come back :(
Anecdotal but several of my friends claimed that psilocybin therapy restored their sense of smell.
That is interesting. Psilocybin has been shown to grow new brain neural pathways. It does seems plausible.
Another option is Ketamine, wich also promotes BDNF. Some countries make use of it as a treatment for depression
Someone tell me when this becomes prescribable
You can just pick em yourself in the autumn
Or ask Uncle Ben for help, takes almost zero effort and you reap heaps.
Uncle Ben??
Mushroom spores sprayed in an Uncle Ben package.
Works for all kinds of fungi.
There was a subreddit about uncleben brand rice, which is sold pre-cooked in pouches. The sub was not about eating the rice, but as a growth medium for various fungi. The rice is the perfect nutrient and moisture content, and it’s sterile. Mushroom spores are prone to contamination for a couple weeks while they get established, so it’s a fairly reliable way to get started, without owning a pressure cooker. Any pouch of shelf stable pre-cooked grain should be a suitable substrate for this type of mushroom, which in the wild actually grows on manure.
I’m not good with mushrooms… I’m not a mycologist…
Holy crap, now that you mention it, im pretty sure I’ve felt something similar from shrooms
Holy shit I had a mild case of COVID with headaches as my only symptom. I then had long COVID and couldn’t think straight, forgot words all the time, had trouble finishing sentences. It’s terrifying to think this is why that was happening but it tracks because every time my feet got cold during that same time period one of my toes swelled up. Probably the same thing happening in my foot and my brain.
Oh wow I’ve been blaming alcohol abuse on brain fog. I quit drinking last year but still can’t remember words all the time, same with finishing sentences. Struggling with being articulate all the time. And this all started during covid.
That could be long COVID but it could also unfortunately be the after effects of heavy drinking. Did your brain issues start after you had COVID?
Yeah which would be quite the cost of coincidence if it is alcohol related after introducing the variable of covid. I’m healthy now, perfect liver function after blood tests. I mean I still might have lingering effects of alcohol abuse.
This is terrifying. I am 8 weeks in after testing positive. A blood exam reveal no more viral or bacterial infection but I still experience some anxiety and brain fog, today was one of those days (yesterday was an awesome day on the other hand).
I get cold hands all the time when I am starting to feel unwell.
So this is actually pretty close to what a lot of people thought was going on: mini strokes.
Can it be treated? Does it heal?
understanding the underlying cause of these conditions will allow us to develop targeted therapies for patients in the future,” said Prof. Matthew Campbell
Lets hope so. I imagine they might try medicines to reduce the bleeding and improve healing.
Anecdotally speaking I had covid a few months before vaccination became available (yay) and had horrible brain fog. I forgot a lot of words and really struggled with finishing sentences, things like that. It did improve but it took about a year. At the same time one of my toes kept swelling up every time my feet got cold and that stopped around the same time my ability to think improved.
Thanks for sharing a hopeful anecdote about long COVID, they’re few and far between. I’m glad you got better.
Thank you so much. It was a scary time because I felt like my brain was never going to work again.
I really empathize from nearly 5 years of gut dysfunction and related autoimmune issues. Healing felt like a miracle.
Yikes that sounds awful.
Good god. I had covid twice, once before the vaccines and once after being vaxxed. I had a month of bad brain fog after each. It’s terrifying to think I was going to work and driving while my brain was leaking.
Capitalism’s gotta make sure you earn those profits for shareholders. Strokes be damned.
Right!? I was sick for two weeks each time. I couldn’t have taken anymore time off. Deep down I knew I probably shouldn’t have been working during the worst of the fog but I needed the money.
After covid I had some regular and unusually strong headaches for a while. Maybe my brain was bleeding?
Unlikely. The most likely answer is that your sinuses never drained and you had a secondary infection.
But it’s possible that leaky blood vessels had some effect. Note that leaky vessels are very different from an actual bleed.
A sinus headache is distinguishable from a regular headache, so I wouldn’t discount the leaky blood vessels possibility.
Good point pointing out the difference between a “leak” and a “bleed,” though: if your brain is bleeding, that’s a full-blown emergency.
Just a tiny little bleed 🥺
I’m so grateful that I didn’t manage to catch COVID
Yet…
The virus is far from extinction and isn’t going anywhere in our lifetimes.
Expecting to never catch Covid over the next few decades is like expecting to never catch the common cold.I think the mutations may be for the better, though. First time I got it (2nd shot), I felt like dogshit. Brain fog, sore muscles, extreme fatigue, runny nose, chills, etc. Second time I got it I felt fine except a small amount of brain fog.
How do you know you didn’t catch it? One of the problems, especially early on, was that some infections were asymptomatic.
Indeed, I’m not sure even testing is sufficient. My family recently got it (my wife and I visiting my parents), but thought nothing of it for a week. My father had a sore throat, my mother had watery eyes and some nasal congestion. My father masked indoors (because I don’t want a regular cold either) and chalked my mother’s symptoms to seasonal allergies (the cars were covered with Pine pollen all week). Then, on the drive home, my wife felt off. 10 hours in the car together. She slept in the guest room that night and, just for grins, tested for Covid the next morning. She was positive. We called and had my parent’s test - both positive. I tested negative so I packed my things and rented a hotel room for the week and worked there alone. I tested every other day and was never positive, but I cancelled all my client meetings.
I still never “got it” but…is it really feasible I didn’t have some low level? This is my second trip in a car for multiple hours with someone who tested positive the next day. Granted, I’m about 4 vaccines in (2xOG, 1 updated, 1 XBB variant), but so is my wife. I have to think that I had some sub-clinical level of viral load, or at least below the antigen test threshold, but I’m thankful I escaped symptoms.
And sometimes mild enough to be mistaken for allergies
Haha it took me 3 (almost 4) years to finally catch it :(
Same. I was so (oddly) proud of my streak. Then my spouse brought it home from a meeting with friends : P
I was proud too. I was starting to think either I was an asymptomatic carrier or I was immune unlike the rest of you peasants with weak immune systems. My wife had it and I took care of her the entire time she was sick, and I never got it.
I was in the ICU COVID wing for weeks when my dad got sick (immuno compromised lung transplant situation:( ). I still never got it.
But alas, I guess I had just been lucky. I got it after last thanksgiving. The only one in my family to. My wife and baby never got it from me either. It’s such a weird sickness in that sense.
For what it’s worth I was all vaccinated and up to date. As soon as I was able to get each round I did. I wore a mask for a little longer than most people but haven’t really worn one for a year or so? Honestly don’t remember when I stopped. I wore one again when my baby was born for a few months.
Finally got it for the first time last week, tested positive on my wedding day 😭
Damn that sucks. Really reinforces the part of the vow “in sickness” though.
:-/
Have you had any flu like symptoms since 2020?
Were you vaccinated and boostered?
Lots of people like to pretend they didn’t get it while not actually knowing.
Yeah, this is my 65-year-old aunt. Never got covid she says - and yet she’s been sick more than once since 2019. She just never tests - so she never gets covid! Easy!
I’ve had the flu a few times but whenever I tested (I was quite concerned) I always tested negative. Like 3 separate flus.
You’ve indeed been lucky.
