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🇵🇸 Free Palestine 🇵🇸@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Biden calls China a 'ticking time bomb' due to economic troubles

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🇵🇸 Free Palestine 🇵🇸@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday called China a "ticking time bomb" because of its economic challenges and said the country was in trouble because of weak growth.
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  • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    There’s something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what’s going on China and saying out loud, “Their economy is a ticking time bomb.” This is almost an onion news story.

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      dem

      Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.

      biden-nibble biden-rember biden-point DaBiden

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        I’m disappointed, there’s no representation of him having interaction with supernatural beings.

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          angel-biblical-shh why-angel angel-biblical

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          biden-forgor

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      Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?

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        wojak-nooo why won’t you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!

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        our site

        lol this is the fediverse, this is not your space, this is everyone’s space.

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        what do you mean, “you people”?

        and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you’ve been swimming in your whole life.

        glasses-on

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          • ZapataCadabra [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Casual homophobia to own the tankies xi-square-up

            • CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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              How is it homophobia? I would’ve said the same thing for anyone of any pronoun tags. What makes you so sure I might not be LGBT?

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                Telling someone they suck a man’s dick as an insult is pretty basic homophobia. Unless you meant it as a compliment, then by all means I hope xigma-male gets his knob schlobbed for all his hard work.

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                  I mean, it could be misogyny. Lets not rush to judgement.

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                  No it isn’t. I would’ve been equally as likely to tell them to suck Xi’s dick if they were a woman.

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                yeah because there aren’t any homophobic queer people. that’d never happen.

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            A homophobic Catholic; how unsurprising

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              You literally don’t know my sexuality. Telling someone to suck dick is like an incredibly common expression.

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                Why is it so common 🤔

                And why is it being common a defense? It was once common to own people, is that also OK?

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          • StalinForTime [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            You tone is that of a teenager and I suspect you do not know how to define state capitalist, or alternatively you don’t know as much as you think about the Chinese economy.

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            you’ve made it extremely clear that you don’t read, but I’m going to leave a link here for fun anyway

            https://redsails.org/losurdo-on-china/

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            pigpoop

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            you say that, but have you considered that pee pee poo poo?

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            You used so many words to tell us you have no clue.

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            What is it with the homophobia and misogyny? Do you understand that using deepthroating is accusing someone of being the receptive participant in the sex act, and that cultural norms expect that person to either be a woman or a gay man? Do you understand that you’re trying to insult someone by accusing them of being a woman or a gay man engaged in a sexual act that you apparently find to be demeaning or shameful? I mean, like, okay, Catholic, so hating queer people and women should be assumed, but are you actually aware you’re doing it or is it just a reflex?

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              It’s a common fucking expression. You’re overthinking it. You never say “this sucks?” Give me a fucking break and stop discriminating against my religion.

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            the state is more answerable to the people than a non-state capitalist is.

            It wouldn’t be my first choice but it would be an improvement.

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        our site

        sorry to break it to you, but the person who runs your instance might be more aligned with the hexbears than with you.

      • temptest [any]@hexbear.net
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        Disagreeing with you isn’t spam.

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          Spamming any thread we post about China is.

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            What makes it spam? We’re invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don’t link with us atm).

            If you meant flooding, it’s not that either. We’re a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we’ll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?

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              Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a “silent majority” of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post

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                Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn’t keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It’s one of the main reasons they quarantined us.

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              You assholes are single handlely ruining the lemmy experience. We need to defederate ASAP.

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                Wait till you find out the ideologies of the Lemmy devs

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            You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.

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              fidel-balling

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              your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed

              data-laughing

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        I found a website that doesn’t have those loser Hexbears. Here let me show you.

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        Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess

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          Go in the real world kid. 99% of people of all politics will not like China.

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            That’s ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we’re 18% of all humans.

            Here’s an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.

            Here’s Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.

            Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it’s a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.

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              CatholicSocialist’s criteria for who counts as people: us-foreign-policy

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              Again, not talking about countries bribed by China, I’m talking about the countries of the majority of the userbases here…

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                You think the people answering questions in these surveys were bribed? That’s hilarious lol. Imagine the headlines, “Global corruption soars as China moves to enhance its public image by bribing billions”

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            You’re such a redditor

            It’s also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.

            You’re really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans

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              https://www.csis.org/analysis/public-opinion-china-liberal-silent-majority

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            Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.

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              I wasn’t talking about people in countries that have been bribed.

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                Maybe the US should try bribing people instead of bombing them

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                lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?

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                  No… because they never fulfill their promises. geordi-yes

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                You live in the US, how are you not being bribed to think the way you do?

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                  In fairness the statement is consistent. The US government does it’s damndest to do nothing what so ever for the citizens of the us.

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                  They do it for free! They don’t even get paid to spout US State Department propaganda lmao.

                  At least we get Xi-bucks.

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                  What makes you so sure of that?

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                Maybe the US should start “bribing” with infrastructure projects then, I thought they were all about their soft power or whatever

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                  You now the US is upstanding because it won’t even bribe its own citizens by giving them anything that would improve their lives go matter how hard they vote.

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                  Hmmm

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                “I only want a government that doesn’t do good things for me!”

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                dirty browns bribed by the dirty yellows

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                China helped other counties improve the material conditions of their people bribed the dumb dark folk.

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                us-foreign-policy

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                  Most POC do not like China either, it’s only a few countries.

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                The nefarious Chinese are tricking people into supporting them by checks notes improving their material conditions.

                Thank God I live in America where I’ll never have to worry about the government doing that.

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                [laughs in IMF loans]

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            In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you’re doing kid.

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            Nnnnnothin’ personnel, kid… berdly-smug

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            I think you’d be shocked to find out that most of the world thinks very highly of China and it’s accomplishments and foreign policy. Though you like meant only to refer to Americans, which is understandable given your lamentable biases.

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            deleted by creator

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        Go back to Reddit with the other bazinga dipshits

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        Have you considered turning the other cheek?

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        anarxi

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        We have to put up with you too, you realize.

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        Will no one rid me of these meddlesome hexbears!?

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        Excuse me, I’m here to show my support for Comrade Joe

        biden-leftist

        it just so happens to also be a China thread

        p.s.

        You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa

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        Dude, take a break!

        I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can’t be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?

        I’d say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.

        You seem to haven’t accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.

        I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.

        What you do is obviously up to you!

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        our site

        You’ve been here 3 days.

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        lemmy user posts on lemmy

        “why would hexbear do this?”

        Same energy as calling any bad thing done by Americans as “like North Korea”

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        At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that’s a feature we’ll see on Lemmy itself one day.

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          You can? Which app? I’m using Voyager and don’t see that option.

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            It’s under dz

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            Connect for Lemmy and Sync for Lemmy both does it.

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              Cries in iOS.

              Thanks though!

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        @CatholicSocialist @marx_mentat You should be able to block domains on lemmy as a user - just about every other fedi instance allows you to do this.

        NSFW emojis - such as their pigpoopballs - often gets places defed, if you’re mad enough you might bring that up to your instance admin.

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        @CatholicSocialist @marx_mentat mastodon would say what you said but replace hexbear with pleroma

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        Just keep dropping this link on the hexbears whenever you can:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

        They’re either clueless teenagers that only know the things they’ve learned from TikTok or working for whatever the Chinese equivalent of glavset is. Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

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    Yeah yeah, I’ve heard that before. There’s a whole cottage industry of “experts” that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.

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      China’s economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.

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        Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. That’s two massive benefits to economic security and health.

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          But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didn’t think about that, stupid tankie.

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            It’s a legitimate risk. Rail theft by the mole-people is up 12% in the last quarter.

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        People (westerners) pick on China because they want it to collapse. It’s entirely wishful thinking.

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        The Chinese government stacks the cards though it actually has the capability to use some toothpicks to hold them in place, and will immediately rebuild it things start to fall apart.

        To contrast, the US will flounder and pull their one “low interest rates” lever while having a political blowout over some sort of stimulus funding package that probably won’t pass.

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        Do you repeat something you heard there or can you in detail describe how the worlds greates manufacturing Hub is a economy build on Cards…

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          china believes in the heart of the cards

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            This is what China wanted their relationship with the US to be like but our ruling class is just too evil and shortsighted for that

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        If that’s the case then the US’s economy is a card dealer pointing a gun at everyone at the table

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        You just described the US, UK, and much of the western world entirely. The global economy is just a bunch of "IOU"s

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          China is a bit different in that regard, though.

          Since apartments are pretty much the only investment for private savings, there’s a huge percentage of the GDP tied to construction. This bubble is not quite bursting, but rapidly deflating, leaving many regular people practically without savings.

          Other countries have inflated real estate markets as well, but their markets simply are not that large in comparison (percentage of GDP).

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        Well, actually it’s because China’s roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.

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    If you think China’s economy is a time bomb wait til you hear about what it means when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency around the world.

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    The country that leads the world in mass shootings shouldn’t be labeling other countries as “ticking time bombs.”

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    By my estimates, China has only 70 more years until complete and utter collapse!

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      Gordon Chang preparing to put himself into cryosleep.

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    ANY DAY NOW

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    The old federation is dying, the new one struggles to be born. Now is the time of unlimited China struggle sessions.

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    CHINA COLLAPSING ANY DAY NOW

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    man in glass house throws stones

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    Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously very-intelligent

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    Me upvoting a comment and when it refreshes, seeing it’s been upvoted 8 times since I navigated to the page sicko-pog

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    Little weird actively wishing for the most populated country in the world and the second largest economy in the world to collapse. Hey yankee numb nuts, that’s gonna have global repercussions, that will likely affect the US as bad as anyone else. Who do you think makes all your shit? Really trying to cut off your nose to spite your face here.

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    biden-troll Don’t worry about having to work 30 hours a day at the sisyphean torture factory to be able to afford your ten square foot apartment Jack, look at what’s going on in China! A sexpat YouTuber who got kicked out of the country says their economy will collapse any minute now! Don’t trust any of the actual data on China’s economy, you can’t fall for those [REDACTED] and their tricks, Jack! They’re weak even though we say they’re strong! THEY’RE WEAK EVEN THOUGH WE SAY THEY’RE STRONG!

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      What do you mean a guy who thinks the blacks are ruining South Africa isn’t a reliable source of information??

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    President of the Ticking Time Bomb Republic says that the country that hasn’t had a recession in 45 years is “in trouble” and that their 5.2% GDP increase projected by the IMF is “weak growth”.

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        So they basically said “doesn’t count if there is jobs growth”. As long as you can keep creating 10 precarious gig worker jobs for every 9 full time jobs that are eliminated then the economy is doing great!

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        Remeber when the US economy collapsed in 2007 and ever since then it’s been propped up by speculation, free money, zomvie companies that cannot and will never turn a profit, bailouts, and outright fraud, all while the living conditions of the people continue to decay and live expectancy plummets?

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        And a year later when Germany experiences similarly minor shrinking and the US Press is like RECESSION

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      Advanced Economies us-foreign-policy

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        Advanced economies innovate and make things like NFTs and self-driving random incendiary devices luxury electric cars! so-true

        Old, busted economies like China just produce things like buildings, most manufactured products, scientific research, and agricultural products 🤮

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      Hmm, it’s almost like they were allowed into a certain economic system? A new trading partner, perhaps?

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