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      It is strange and striking that climate change activists have not committed any acts of terrorism. After all, terrorism is for the individual by far the modern world’s most effective form of political action, and climate change is an issue about which people feel just as strongly as about, say, animal rights. This is especially noticeable when you bear in mind the ease of things like blowing up petrol stations, or vandalising SUVs. In cities, SUVs are loathed by everyone except the people who drive them; and in a city the size of London, a few dozen people could in a short space of time make the ownership of these cars effectively impossible, just by running keys down the side of them, at a cost to the owner of several thousand pounds a time. Say fifty people vandalising four cars each every night for a month: six thousand trashed SUVs in a month and the Chelsea tractors would soon be disappearing from our streets. So why don’t these things happen?

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        Because the law drops the hammer on them BIG time.

        Hell, activists use to spike old wood trees marked for clear cutting back in the day. This would cause the saw blades foresters would use to explode in their face, in fact George Alexander, a millworker, was severely injured when a saw blade shattered after contact with a tree spike and cut his jaw in half.

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          His name is Jason Alexander, he only played a character named George.

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          George Alexander would then form a band, drop two hits, then write for other artists away from the limelight.

          Oh wait, that’s Gregg.

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            I thought he conquered the eastern Mediterranean, Egypt, the Middle East, and parts of Asia in a remarkably short period of time.

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        I think it says more about the personalities on each side. ICE loving climate deniers are aggressive by nature.

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          No, it’s more that people who care about climate change are good at long term thinking. There are no cuddly animals to rescue right now, so people who want instant gratification do other things.

          People who are good at long term thinking commit fewer types of impulse crimes. Vandalism is an unintelligent way to get your point across. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the paint job on the SUV.

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            I’ve seen ICE folks run cyclists off of roads. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an EV or cyclist attack a shitwagon.

            I dunno man, how ever you measure it I think the ice folks are more aggressive by nature, these are the same coal rolling fucks who like to pollute intentionally as a ‘fuck you’ to environmentalists.

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        Maybe environmental movements don’t attract the types of people who do this stuff or maybe it’s not personal it’s impersonal? Big difference between being told in your childhood house of worship that you are going to happy sky place if you die for skydaddy or seeing your uncle dragged off in the night vs. seeing a PowerPoint about climate change. Or maybe it’s just a number game. Environmental groups just don’t have enough people to get them in the pool.

        Not sure.

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        No! Bad DarkThoughts!

        You call a tow truck and have the vehicle towed at the owner’s expense.

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          Oh my sweet summer child. Sidewalk parking is more or less legal in Germany since cars are generally placed above people. It’s literally happening everywhere. My entire street is full of people being 1/3 on the sidewalk.

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            No it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.

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              Dude, literally every damn city residential area is like this. No one cares, especially not the Ordnungsamt who should be responsible for it, or politicians. Worst case, they just add some white paint and whoop it is legal, because fuck pedestrians. I don’t even know why you try to argue otherwise when it’s literally my reality that I have to constantly squeeze myself through between cars and walls because the sidewalk is not even wide enough for two people anymore with all the cars parking on it. Like literally every single time, for decades. And the fatter the cars get each year, the worse it gets too. Even firefighters already complained about this because they often can’t even drive through some streets since even the car lane itself is too narrow thanks to the cars, even if they park right against the house walls. But hey, here’s Knuschberkeks telling me that I am apparently hallucinating.

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                Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?

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                  I said it is “more or less legal”, meaning it is defacto legal because no one actually enforces it and rather makes it legal if they had to enforce it.

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          In what world is a tow truck going to tow a car for parking on the side walk? They’re gonna tell you to call the cops or parking enforcement and the cops don’t even show up for gun shots

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      Can’t say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.

      Edit: The downvotes on this are fucking unreal, imagine being upset that the person you just mowed over scratched your car. Fuck right off with that bullshit.

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        For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.

        Are you 12?

        Or do you just see every unfortunate occurrence as personal victimization?

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      You know, I agree. But also, you can’t imagine how much I want to scratch the cars that just park illegally in my neighborhood. They park on the curves and crossings and in such small distances that I literally cannot pass through with my stroller without scratching them. So I end up going around the block(s) further and further away just to pass through some gap of illegally parked cars that’s just big enough if I am very careful. But then I end up thinking, wtf. Why do I have to be careful to not scratch their wrongfully parked cars, a private property that they left outside on a place designed and protected by law to be solely for pedestrians, with my private property that should be able to walk this road? And also, why do I not get the same protection if I want to park my bike or stroller outside? Because no one cares if my private property is damaged when it is left outside. If I scratch my stroller on an illegally parked car when I cross the road at the place I am supposed to be crossing somehow I am the one who has to pay damages.

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        That doesn’t do expensive damage. I am pro-finger.

        Edit: come on, “pro-finger”? Nobody’s gonna take that and run with it? I’m disappointed.

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          Even then, in a “lorry problem” type of scenario, it could be OK. Like, you have a lever and there’s a fascist con-man polluting the world with bad ideas and products, and you could either do nothing or use the lever to go to town on one of those products to send a message to his supporters, I know what I would do

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      Purposely, yeah, but if I open my door into it, don’t park do fucking close to the line

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        But what if the person on the other side was parked over the line and I had to leave space to get out and then they left and now I look like I parked like an asshole and then some asshole uses that as an excuse to ding my car.

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          That’s just how the cookie crumbles. If you really can’t stomach any dings leave the car in the garage

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            I am on your side about this. I can’t stand the people who need their car to be in perfect appearance and do asshole things to get it that way.

            It’s a fucking machine that you use to move goods and people from a to b. Not a statement, not a status symbol, not a penis enhancement. Scratches are just battle scars. My civic looks like shit and I don’t care.

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    If you drive a douchemobil, you shouldn’t be surprised when people think you’re a douche.

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      Carter tells the paper he has never been a fan of the limelight, somehow forgetting what sort of attention a massive, angular truck would garner him.

      Lmao dude bought the fugliest car ever made and didn’t think twice about that decision

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        and later,

        He knew the truck would be an eye-catcher in Maine. But he wanted it for its uniqueness.

        “It’s so ugly it’s cute. It’s like a French bulldog,” he said. “I don’t think it’s the most attractive car in the world, but it’s different. And I like to be different.”

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        I think it is more “carter lies in the paper’s face that he has never been a fan of the limelight”

        You literally don’t buy a cyberrustbucket unless you are dying for attention.

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      Thinking someone is a douche and actively damaging their car are two completely different things. Not cool to damage property like that, just point and laugh or loudly exclaim how that is the ugliest looking car you’ve ever seen and you pity whoever thought it was a good idea to buy one.

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    People being assholes over it is dumb, but I can’t say I would want one. I saw one recently at my local grocery store and I couldn’t stop thinking how poorly built it looked. It just seemed like the fit and finish of the body panels was kinda bad. I got an overall feeling like it was something put together by a couple of teenagers in metal shop.

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        Have you tried quitting to the menu and turning up texture detail? Looks like it might be something to do with anti-aliasing. Hopefully will be patched in the next update.

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          Lol we don’t have an HOA around here thankfully, otherwise my 50yo camper would have to find a new home

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      People can be shitty, but I still find it amusing that it’s so ugly and stupid it provokes people into a rage.

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        I think it’s because it costs an obscene amount while being something only a moron would buy. So when someone who is struggling to make ends meet sees that an absolute moron has so much cash that they can blow it on something this dumb, they get angry. It’s not fair that they work hard just to make ends meet while some failson has $100k to blow on a dumb car. At least a Maserati, Porsche, or Ferrari of similar price looks cool.

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        I find all these comically oversized pickups obnoxious.

        The cybertruck is just the latest, most obnoxious model to date.

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        Isn’t that the goal of owning a machine like that? You are trying to provoke a reaction. The car I own was the single most commonly sold sedan the year it was made. I don’t want people reacting to me, noticing me, etc. I want to be another person in the crowd.

        If you take a shit in front of a camera you can’t really be upset that people are commenting on it.

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        I don’t think it’s the car per se that angers people but the idiocy of lemmings who are destroying the world by supporting people like Trump and Musk and Nick Fuentes. And by buying a Tesla car, that’s what you do, you enable Elon Musk to keep on destroying the world.

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      One of my neighbors has one. When the ford flex next to it is the better truck in all respects…ya done fucked up

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    “I don’t like attention.”

    – Guy that gave multiple interviews about all the attention he is getting.

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      He doesn’t like negative attention and is too dumb to realise that was the only thing that would happen by buying such an obvious “I’m dumb and a dickhead” statement piece.

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          This isn’t what gets me into a dispensary a second time.

          Feeling like I can ask a dumbass question, get a coherent answer, and they will have product in stock at the promised price; gets me in the second and subsequent times.

          Hypothetically, of course, but no different from the local booze warehouse, really. My loyalty is to the place where I asked someone “I see you’re out of x, what’s similar?” And they a) tapped out because it wasn’t their area of expertise and b) connected me with the person who could provide options and talk about that particular niche ad infinitum.

          Don’t be flashy if you run a dispensary, just know your stuff and educate your staff.

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            be on weedmaps (or whatever your state uses online), have your stock up to date, and most importantly, don’t just sell by the 1/8.

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    Not only did he get an unpopular truck, but he still uses Reddit. This guy is 0-2. What’s next?

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        Anyone that supports muskrat is an automatic pos in my book. He’s an evil degenerate.

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          I’ve never liked that nickname, just because muskrats are pretty cool and don’t deserve to be brought down to that shithead’s level.

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            You’re right it’s a disservice to the glorious beings that are muskrats. How about we just call him… sir shitstain nazi mckfuckface?

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      I bet if you knew this guy you’d realise he’s actually 0 - infinity

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    I mean is it really a truck?

    There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.

    Like, if you can’t put a 2x4 in it, is it a truck? Is an el camino a truck?

    IF a cybertruck is a truck, is a Pontiac Aztek a truck?

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        And the reason for this is that the “light truck” classification has weaker emissions standards, so they can cheap out on efficiency of the engine which means higher profit margins (and more harmful pollution for us to enjoy inhaling).

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        iirc, that is bc your Forester is an SUV that uses a truck chassis underneath, whereas the otherwise extremely similar Crosstrek uses the Impreza chassis so is more of a high “car”. But that could change over the years and I’m not really a car person so don’t quote me or anything!:-P

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          The Forester up until 2008 was quite literally an Impreza/Legacy chassis that shares identical drivetrain components except for the body. It is unibody, Macpherson strut, symmetrical AWD and as far from a truck as you can get.

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          His Forrester is built on a Legacy chassis; it’s a four door sedan with a little lift and a bigger body shell on top.

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            Thanks for the correction. I see now, it’s a larger car chassis - so as @[email protected] said, that’s not a “truck”, light or otherwise, at all!?

            I did a search and found this article suggesting that it is a historical (hehe, some might say… “legacy”, eh?:-P) naming scheme, based on fuel economy:

            The U.S. government uses light-duty trucking as a vehicle class for the regulation of fuel economy by enforcing the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. The light-duty truck class includes pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles (SUVs), vans, and minivans.

            Since light-duty trucks are typically used for utility purposes rather than personal use, they have lower standards for fuel economy than cars do.

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              nope, not a truck in any sense of the word. granted I use it like one, lol, but it is very much a light passenger car chassis.

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            Yeah I was wrong about that. I mentioned this in another reply:

            The U.S. government uses light-duty trucking as a vehicle class for the regulation of fuel economy by enforcing the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. The light-duty truck class includes pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles (SUVs), vans, and minivans.

            Since light-duty trucks are typically used for utility purposes rather than personal use, they have lower standards for fuel economy than cars do.

            From this article.

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                Nuh uh! Only 90% are that way… the rest are men who buy into how “sporty” they are.:-)

                I did love watching a video of a tiny Subaru Crosstrek able to do as well as a tow truck - it’s not just about power, but tire traction grip.

                Also people who don’t buy into the whole “truck=manly” schtick.

                But definitely 90% soccer moms too ofc.:-P

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                  I drive a 91 Cherokee and I defend myself because I like Jeeps and cherokees are easy to work on. I would kill for an old 70s military Jeep truck though, hell id commit genocide for one of those old boxed Willy Jeeps they find in the gods forsaken deep storage of places like the Sierra Army Depot.

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      I heard the cyber truck called the “Incel Camino” and now I can’t think of it any other way.

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        I mean, the el Camino caught a lot of flak when I was young. I remember my “surfer/ stoner/ slacker/ loser” gen x cousin who was a pool guy used his as a work vehicle and I guarantee that guy was SMASHING with that ride. I’m not saying a cyber truck truck is on that level and but some things take time to catch on.

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      If you can’t fit a sheet of plywood in the bed, I’d call it a waste of time.

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      There needs to be a way to validate if something is a truck.

      Isn’t there already legal definitions such as gross vehicle weight? I know there have been some edge cases where people argue cars as trucks to get special truck access for commercial use. Chevy HHR comes to mind with some contractors.

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    has been bombarded with reactions (both good and bad)

    Are articles just school essays with a minimum word count?

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      At least with other expensive cars you can admire the craftsmanship, elegant appearance, and significant history behind the brand or specific model of car. For the money, you get none of those things with a cyber truck.

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        People who care about such things aren’t Tesla customers. You need to have ultimate shallowness to spend money on Elon’s shitty products.

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      There are more expensive vehicles for sure

      I can understand hitting the lottery and spending six figures on a luxury sports car. I cannot image why anyone would have voluntarily submitted themselves to this vehicle. Its the automotive equivalent of lighting six figures on fire.

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      I guess any vehicle you can’t afford can scream rich asshole if you’re bitter enough

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        It depends on the car. If I see a nice looking expensive car I don’t think they’re an asshole. Seeing something amazing is a treat for a gearhead like me, no matter how bitter I am.

        The Cybertruck, however, is ugly as fuck. Unless your aesthetic is 80s low-poly video games it is even uglier in person than pictures. The fact that something that ugly costs that much is almost insulting.

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        any vehicle you can’t afford

        Definitely a difference between living beyond your means and simply pissing the money away.

        Admittedly, this vehicle was made by a guy who wrecked his McLauren inside a year. When you’re a billionaire, I guess you just see everything as disposable.

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    Isn’t getting attention the whole point of buying a expensive car like that for most people? I mean the same goes for expensive sports cars: most people don’t get these because they are particularly good drivers - hell, some are even so old they can’t even get into those cars properly.

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    I saw one in person finally a few weeks ago and just started laughing; it’s even uglier in person! But I wouldn’t intentionally try to damage someone else’s vehicle; that’s even more ridiculous.

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        That depends on where you live lots of places are very unfriendly to bike riders

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            It’s wild that they attack cyclist. I am mostly a pedestrian first as I live in a walkable city, but I was walking my bike to the shop for repairs and there was a dramatic shift in how drivers reacted to me just walking a bike. It’s insane how much needless contempt they have for someone on a bike.

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              Hating anything that helps the planet is now the religion of the right. We’re talking about people who deliberately mod their trucks to create more harmful emissions.

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          I like my ebike, but I like my bicycle even more. I can’t quite place my finger on why, but it’s probably because my bicycle is a pretty decent hardtail and my ebike is a cheap drop-shipped folding fatbike that I use more for heavier hauls or recovery days. I’d probably change my opinion if I had something like a Specialized Turbo lol.

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          I pull my inflatable kayak with a bike trailer and thought about an ebike but then, I also do touring and the places I go to are beyond battery life. For example this weekend I’m cycling 90 km to my camp site and there’s no electricity. And I need to get back.

          And the second issue with this is that AFAIK there’s no fast charging on most ebikes. So if I need to stop somewhere to charge it when the battery will be dead after 75 km, it will take an eternity to charge.

          So in the end, for my case, as someone cycling a few thousand kilometres a year, for “longer distances”, it’s wouldn’t be very practical.

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            You can still pedal without the battery, you just don’t get the assist. What do you mean by fast charging? My battery goes from empty to full in 4 hours, and I have a 50 mile range. (80.5 km)

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              But with a dead battery you have to haul it plis your stuff, which was supposed to be there to make it easier in the first place.

              And by fast charge, I mean like an electric car, that can fully cjarge in about 15 to 20 minutes instead of hours.

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                Wouldn’t you still get some benefit once you’re going due to regenerative breaking? Though I’m just guessing as to how they are set up, no idea if they even do regenerative breaking.

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    It’s lame and an egregious waste of money. I’ll notice you and think “ha, loser”. That’s the end of it.

    Some people gotta take the bad purchase decision of someone else like it’s an attack on their chosen identity!