What Lemm.ee’s shutdown means (and doesn’t) for the Fediverse
https://sebastian.lauwe.rs/blog/lemmee-shutting-down/
#blog #blogging #fediverse #lemmy #lemmee
] > About the most robust and resilient instance, I’m not sure, monthly reports on [email protected] are pretty transparent and detailed. Other instances like sh.itjust.works have very high uptime as well.
Yeah, the reason I say that is because Sunaurus had setup something like 10 sub-servers (most of them non-redundant) running the instance, at a cost of ~US$200/mo. I can’t pretend to be any expert in such stuff, but my perception is that (rather famously unlike certain other instances) it was overall beautifully able to handle massive influxes of users, DDOS attacks, spam issues, outage issues, and whatever else. It also had a health-status link (now defunct) and I think maybe other user/server tools, as well.
So while I grasp the intrinsic, resilient nature of the FV, Lemm.ee to me was one of the strongest instances there was, and it can never be too good when such as those go down.
To me, it also kind of touches on certain problems of dead communities only getting conserved in ‘ghost states’ by the FV. I mean yes, you can still see them if you know how to look, but they can’t be interacted with, and they’ll never pop up in any feeds. They won’t disappear, but I’m pretty sure that very few people are going to bother visiting them unless the content is absolutely stellar.
Another issue apart from that is that even when the content can be migrated to another instance, nobody can say with any certainty that such instance won’t crash, either. There’s also the fact that now that EGN’s stuff is mostly migrated (with ~160 postings lost), I can’t actually edit any of it even as the community owner. So personally, it’s another big chonk of work trying to patch up any content that has aging issues… such as Imgur content needing to be re-uploaded, info updating, and/or links needing to be fixed. I.e., I’ll need to delete, rework and re-launch so many of those aging posts when I’d much rather be focused on creating new content.
So from my POV, the situation is still a bit fraught, with the most obvious thing seemingly being migration tools needing to be improved, and community-owner tools needing a little more power. Now over on Reddit, people could say something like ‘yeah yeah, I sold my soul to Spez, but at least we don’t have any of those issues.’
So maybe if and when Reddit sets itself on fire again, the FV can be better-prepared to persuade users over. (knock on wood)
Yeah, the reason I say that is because Sunaurus had setup something like 10 sub-servers (most of them non-redundant) running the instance, at a cost of ~US$200/mo. I can’t pretend to be any expert in such stuff, but my perception is that (rather famously unlike certain other instances) it was overall beautifully able to handle massive influxes of users, DDOS attacks, spam issues, outage issues, and whatever else. It also had a health-status link (now defunct) and I think maybe other user/server tools, as well.
Lemm.ee was definitely solid, but it was not the only one.
Another issue apart from that is that even when the content can be migrated to another instance, nobody can say with any certainty that such instance won’t crash, either. There’s also the fact that now that EGN’s stuff is mostly migrated (with ~160 postings lost), I can’t actually edit any of it even as the community owner. So personally, it’s another big chonk of work trying to patch up any content that has aging issues… such as Imgur content needing to be re-uploaded, info updating, and/or links needing to be fixed. I.e., I’ll need to delete, rework and re-launch so many of those aging posts when I’d much rather be focused on creating new content.
In your situation, have you ever considered hosting a blog rather than content directly on Lemmy/Piefed? That might be an easier way to manage the content over time. https://text.tchncs.de/about this be used for example, there are probably other instances around (https://writefreely.fediverse.observer/list)
Another option would be WordPress, which would allow you to link your blog with a Lemmy/Piefed community, like it was done here:
As much as I like Lemmy/Piefed/Mbin, in their current state they’re not the best solution for content that is going to be edited and updated over a long period of time
Yeah, the reason I say that is because Sunaurus had setup something like 10 sub-servers (most of them non-redundant) running the instance, at a cost of ~US$200/mo. I can’t pretend to be any expert in such stuff, but my perception is that (rather famously unlike certain other instances) it was overall beautifully able to handle massive influxes of users, DDOS attacks, spam issues, outage issues, and whatever else. It also had a health-status link (now defunct) and I think maybe other user/server tools, as well.
So while I grasp the intrinsic, resilient nature of the FV, Lemm.ee to me was one of the strongest instances there was, and it can never be too good when such as those go down.
To me, it also kind of touches on certain problems of dead communities only getting conserved in ‘ghost states’ by the FV. I mean yes, you can still see them if you know how to look, but they can’t be interacted with, and they’ll never pop up in any feeds. They won’t disappear, but I’m pretty sure that very few people are going to bother visiting them unless the content is absolutely stellar.
Another issue apart from that is that even when the content can be migrated to another instance, nobody can say with any certainty that such instance won’t crash, either. There’s also the fact that now that EGN’s stuff is mostly migrated (with ~160 postings lost), I can’t actually edit any of it even as the community owner. So personally, it’s another big chonk of work trying to patch up any content that has aging issues… such as Imgur content needing to be re-uploaded, info updating, and/or links needing to be fixed. I.e., I’ll need to delete, rework and re-launch so many of those aging posts when I’d much rather be focused on creating new content.
So from my POV, the situation is still a bit fraught, with the most obvious thing seemingly being migration tools needing to be improved, and community-owner tools needing a little more power. Now over on Reddit, people could say something like ‘yeah yeah, I sold my soul to Spez, but at least we don’t have any of those issues.’
So maybe if and when Reddit sets itself on fire again, the FV can be better-prepared to persuade users over. (knock on wood)
/rant?
Lemm.ee was definitely solid, but it was not the only one.
https://discuss.tchncs.de/ is managed by the admin behind https://tchncs.de/ , as you can see, they offer quite a few services: https://status.tchncs.de/status/tchncs
In your situation, have you ever considered hosting a blog rather than content directly on Lemmy/Piefed? That might be an easier way to manage the content over time. https://text.tchncs.de/about this be used for example, there are probably other instances around (https://writefreely.fediverse.observer/list)
Another option would be WordPress, which would allow you to link your blog with a Lemmy/Piefed community, like it was done here:
As much as I like Lemmy/Piefed/Mbin, in their current state they’re not the best solution for content that is going to be edited and updated over a long period of time