Wow, took them so long to get quote posts. A welcome addition imo (I know there’s a lot of controversy around implementing it, but for me, I think I prefer it).
To my understanding (please take with several grains of salt), some folks felt like it would encourage toxicity since you can essentially mock something someone said without saying it to them directly, while sending your audience to the original post, and I believe for quite some time the plan was intentionally not to add it
On the other hand, I’ve heard folks suggest that by allowing people to have their own isolated conversation about an idea you can potentially limit some of the harmful consequences of people with large audiences or something, but I don’t remember the exact explanation
Personally I’m happy to get quote posts and I’m happy that mastodon is cautious about implementing features that facilitate hostile interactions in the way that major platforms do for engagement
Hopefully someone can chime in with a more informed/detailed explanation, but I thought I’d share what I know in case I’m the only one to reply :)
@Cris_Color thanks. Friendica has it and i dont see people talking down about it though. I also already seen people being that way (it was a conservative using #justsayin afterward, coming from another instance) on a reply, maybe just notify people of quote posts so its not something equivalent to be talking at their backs without them being aware of it, notification could help
I think quote posts are undesirable for the reasons you mentioned but I have to accept that it will be huge for adoption, and the flip side (promoting others work in a positive light) is also going to be really great.
Oh, my understanding is that originally they didn’t want quote posts because it could lead to a culture of people dunking on each other and a lot of negativity.
So I believe there was a lot of resistance early on against that feature. That’s just what I’ve seen people saying whenever this feature was requested over the past few years. I could be wrong though.
@mintiefresh thanks, i didnt question to put it into doubt, i was more questioning out of curiosity wondering i may be out of the loop about this subject :)
@Alphane_Moon thanks anyway :) some people were willing to share their thoughts on it. if it wasnt for your post with the people commenting on it i’d not know
Wow, took them so long to get quote posts. A welcome addition imo (I know there’s a lot of controversy around implementing it, but for me, I think I prefer it).
The plan is to fully implement this by Mastodon 4.5 later in the year.
@mintiefresh @Alphane_Moon whats the controversy surround it? im not aware of any
To my understanding (please take with several grains of salt), some folks felt like it would encourage toxicity since you can essentially mock something someone said without saying it to them directly, while sending your audience to the original post, and I believe for quite some time the plan was intentionally not to add it
On the other hand, I’ve heard folks suggest that by allowing people to have their own isolated conversation about an idea you can potentially limit some of the harmful consequences of people with large audiences or something, but I don’t remember the exact explanation
Personally I’m happy to get quote posts and I’m happy that mastodon is cautious about implementing features that facilitate hostile interactions in the way that major platforms do for engagement
Hopefully someone can chime in with a more informed/detailed explanation, but I thought I’d share what I know in case I’m the only one to reply :)
@Cris_Color thanks. Friendica has it and i dont see people talking down about it though. I also already seen people being that way (it was a conservative using #justsayin afterward, coming from another instance) on a reply, maybe just notify people of quote posts so its not something equivalent to be talking at their backs without them being aware of it, notification could help
Note that for now, quote posts from other platforms will be displayed correctly in Mastodon 4.4. You can’t quote posts yet. That will come in 4.5
(I will update mastodon.world tomorrow)
I think quote posts are undesirable for the reasons you mentioned but I have to accept that it will be huge for adoption, and the flip side (promoting others work in a positive light) is also going to be really great.
It encourages dog-piling essentially
@Olap i wasnt aware of it being used as argument against its implementation, thanks. Friendica has it implemented already as far as im aware
Same with the Misskey clones. There have been some very dramatic opinions on both sides.
Oh, my understanding is that originally they didn’t want quote posts because it could lead to a culture of people dunking on each other and a lot of negativity.
So I believe there was a lot of resistance early on against that feature. That’s just what I’ve seen people saying whenever this feature was requested over the past few years. I could be wrong though.
@mintiefresh thanks, i didnt question to put it into doubt, i was more questioning out of curiosity wondering i may be out of the loop about this subject :)
No idea, I do use Mastodon relatively regularly, but I am not on top of development discussions.
This was news for me so I decided to share. :)
@Alphane_Moon thanks anyway :) some people were willing to share their thoughts on it. if it wasnt for your post with the people commenting on it i’d not know