I don’t think many even know what a communist is or what communism is about. it just makes them feel upset when they hear the word because of constant corporate mass media conditioning.
Pretty sure a large chunk of Americans think that Russia is still communist.
If they aren’t, who’s been pointing brain rays at me this whole time?
The Russiagate libs who hold signs at protests that associate Trump with a hammer and sickle definitely still do.
One of the most hilarious things of late has been libs, who see themselves as a paragon of rationality, expose that they’re just a different flavor of qAnon.
BlueAnon
I think Americans are well past the point of blaming this on communism.
There’s still a kinda fear of “socialism” and other stuff as specters, but it’s internal. I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “…Damn Russkies.” I haven’t seen that once IRL since like 2016. Even mega Trumpers I know are looking inward (at Democrats); that’s kinda the point of the movement, and those I knew who were a little Cold War nostalgic have, sadly, passed away.
I don’t think many here are looking at shit that’s going down locally and saying “…Damn Russkies.”
What? “Damn Russkies!” is like the number one thing hardcore Democrat supporters blame for the state of the US
My neighbor blames every current problem on democrats by saying “they are communist” as his main point.
Nah.
Look at everyone attacking Mamdani, ethno fascists, techbros, liberals…
Its pretty much all ‘he is a big bad scary communist.’
He is of course not actually a communist, but even an actual socdem is so far to the left of the American Overton Window, the only vocab words that exist are ‘commie! socialist! which are the same thing, or something!’
Granted, the fact that Mamdani has significant public support means that there are more Americans who are more left-wing … but the actual Dem leadership, as with Bernie, cannot countenance losing their corpo megadonors, so they pull out the stops for anything left of … rainbow capitalism.
then lemmy is sampling all the stupidest libs to me, because blaming russians and chinese for their problems with trump and capitalism is the most common argument in lib lemmy posts and accounts.
Yeah, Lemmy does not represent the average liberal in the US, not even close.
excuse me? both parties ran an explicitly sinophobic campaign, not once have the politician or their voting base looked inwards.
You have Trump doing Hitler 2.0 electric boogaloo and Bernie call it Stalinist cult come one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin's_cult_of_personality
It’s not a great analogy, to be fair, but I don’t think Bernie was trying to single out Stalin, who did indeed have an unwaveringly loyal following, to the point of being problematic.
Again. It is not really about Russia.
HITLER 2.0 ELETRIC BOOGALOO. How about compare it to a facist??? Mussolini? Hitlerite cult?
But Berine brain after hearing too many gun shot in schools compare it to a communist first, personifying the meme. Well past it my ass.
Using Hitlerite cult would’ve been more apt, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_cult_of_personality
Then what’s all the China rhetoric about
Though to be fair I think it has died down a bit
It used to be the justification for tariffs, but yeah, it really feels like it died down. MAGA targets have shifted to Europe, and more recently, Brazil.
Venezuela is a big one, too. Oh my god, my family will not shut up about Venezuela. But that’s less new.
Excuse me?? How could you not notice all the Russophobia and Sinophobia? The russophobia crap got really bad when Russia finally decided to do something about the Nazi Regime in Ukraine propped up by the US empire in 2014
The anti-china crap has been present for years now
ROFL!
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If you refuse to see the proxy war the US is waging with Ukraine via the regime they propped up for it and their continued imperialist/empire expansionist plans with NATO, then you are not “all about criticizing the US for its many MANY faults”
Motte-and-bailey. What happened to “nazi”?
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You’re speaking as if the US started it. They did not. Russia literally invaded Ukraine in the false pretense that they are under the control of a Nazi regime. There is no Nazi regime, barely even a functioning contingent, and certainly nothing out of proportion with the rest of the world’s far right representation. If anything, this “proxy war” serves two purposes: 1. To field test new technology and 2. To undercut Russian propaganda. It’s apparent to anyone paying attention that Russia is the aggressor, they’ve vastly oversold their own capability, and their propaganda machine is flailing.
I’m not saying there are no issues within the US that urgently need resolved, but let’s be honest with ourselves – authoritarianism is authoritarianism no matter their lat/long or cultural/economic history, at home and abroad.
Edit: got caught up in my own argument and forgot to mention the obvious third reason: to help the sovereign nation of Ukraine defend itself from invasion.
See, the mistake you made was assuming anyone here is capable of understanding how nuanced debate works. It’s all or nothing around here. And if you so much as merely imply that communism/russia/authoritarianism/china is flawed in any way-
You get your comment removed and face the possibility of having you yourself removed.
I’d strongly suggest you search elsewhere if you’re looking for an actual conversation on topics like this, because speaking southward in a northbound wind-tunnel won’t ever result in anyone getting the message.
I’m honestly surprised they’re still up
It’s not a school night.
That’s right history starts on February 2022, nothing happened before then. 🤡
The US did start it, by constantly poking with threats and actions here and there. Like in 2014 when they overthrew the actual democratically elected Ukraine government for the crime of being “Too friendly with Russia” and then propped up the current Nazi regime that is completely russo-phobic.
They even went so far as to rename a city because it had a “Russian spelling”.
Right, because the US told Yanukovych to brutalize his people, and also told the people to revolt and the supreme court to remove him from office, so he could flee to Russia. Not saying the West didn’t see this as an opportunity to strengthen economic ties, but it was not a bear and stick moment. Why do you insist that only the West is at fault? Culpability is shared
Why would he tell people to “revolt” when he was the president of the country? That doesn’t even make sense. Who did he “brutalize,” specifically? It was the coup snipers who shot people in Maidan from rooftops. It was a false flag attack.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23311886.2023.2269685
My blunt observation. People here in the US don’t care.
They voted a somewhat pro-Russian, Ukraine isolationist into power, and didn’t give a shit. Trump flip flopped, and they didn’t give a shit about that either. It didn’t move approval ratings one. Hair.
So you can keep saying the Big Bad American People have it out for Russia, that they cheer on Ukraine from their TVs. But on the ground here? They do. Not. Care. Frankly, if they were more educated, my racist family would bucket both Ukrainians and Russians as “white” and be largely indifferent to the war, as it’s not happening on US soil. They liked Trump reaching out to Putin for a peace deal. What keeps them up at night is brown people flooding over the border, tearing down Seattle or whatever Fox or Rumble is blaring. Or, more realistically, our country teetering on Civil War from internal polarization. Not China or Russia vs Ukraine or Taiwan.
So you can blame the not-quite-extinct neolibs and the government, I guess, but:
Russophobia and Sinophobia
IRL, as much as people (bots?) banter online, I have not personally heard one peep about Russophobia in years. We just aren’t that educated on foreign policy, nor into it like the Bush era. And the Sinophobia stops at “deport the foreign asians.”
Again, this is not my opinion or personal belief. Just my observation from the US.
