Gonna get lynched for admitting to this here, but I’ve stayed away from Shovel Knight because of how premium they take themselves to be. I have gotten Hollow Knight and plenty of other Castlevanias on discount, though, even though I’m not a fan of the genre. I think this statement coming from them is a bit ironic consider how they treat their product, although they aren’t the only one.
Game bad because no sales is a weird take. Not really sure why you’re ascribing a “holier than thou” attitude to Yacht Club Games because I don’t really see it but different perspectives I guess. I’d argue comparing anything to Hollow Knight will make it come up short. That game is a masterpiece and it still only costs $15. You should try Shovel Knight. It’s not really a Metroidvania so the comparisons to Hollow Knight and Castlevania isn’t wholly accurate. If you don’t like it you could refund it. Disagreements aside, Silk Song looks like it’s going to be fire when it finally releases, but it’s been so long I’m not going to keep the hype up anymore
Happy gaming, homie
I’m SO confused by what you’re saying. And I think what is happening, is you’re saying something so outragous that my brain REFUSES to process the information. Leaving me bewildered by recent developments.
Let me get this straight…you think that the studio behind shovel knight doesn’t deserve to state their opinion on how to mske good retro games??? And this is based on the fact that they don’t discount their games, and they take the genre too seriously…just to make sure I understand you. That’s what you’re going with?
I mean, we can wait for them to clarify, but the way I read it is that… it’s bad that they don’t sell their game for cheaper?
I profoundly disagree there, too. There’s this notion that pixel art games are inherently low-end, cheap stuff and that’s just not true. Plus games are too cheap these days anyway. I bought Shovel Knight full price (several times, actually), and while it’s not my favorite 2D platformer it always felt like good value. I mean, the soundtrack alone is worth the price of admission, and all the expansions are fun and worth playing. Even if they weren’t, the franchise now includes more interesting games I am glad their success was able to fund.
I agree with the sentiment. People think that non 3d graphics should be cheap because they don’t understand the amount of work that can go behind them.
Take chained echoes or sea of stars, two modern pixel jrpgs with “premium” prices. If someone thinks those games shouldn’t cost their full price, they are out of their minds.
Same with shovel knight. I bought the treasure trove and the amount of fun it has give to me puts so many 80€ games to shame.
Shovel Knight is flipping huge. I mean, sure, Treasure Trove includes what? Five full games in there, given their DLC structure. But even if it didn’t, I don’t think people realize how big these “retro games” are.
Shovel Knight is probably three, four times larger than Duck Tales, both in terms of assets and playtime. If anything, a pet peeve of mine with modern retro games is they all feel this compulsion to give you a five hour playthrough at least and that’s often too much for the older mechanics they’re leaning on.
Castlevania will last you an hour on a blind run and that’s perfectly fine, even if you get to that bar by having more content instead of being obtuse and difficult the way an older game would due to memory and budget constraints.
Gonna get lynched for admitting to this here, but I’ve stayed away from Shovel Knight because of how premium they take themselves to be. I have gotten Hollow Knight and plenty of other Castlevanias on discount, though, even though I’m not a fan of the genre. I think this statement coming from them is a bit ironic consider how they treat their product, although they aren’t the only one.
Game bad because no sales is a weird take. Not really sure why you’re ascribing a “holier than thou” attitude to Yacht Club Games because I don’t really see it but different perspectives I guess. I’d argue comparing anything to Hollow Knight will make it come up short. That game is a masterpiece and it still only costs $15. You should try Shovel Knight. It’s not really a Metroidvania so the comparisons to Hollow Knight and Castlevania isn’t wholly accurate. If you don’t like it you could refund it. Disagreements aside, Silk Song looks like it’s going to be fire when it finally releases, but it’s been so long I’m not going to keep the hype up anymore Happy gaming, homie
I’m SO confused by what you’re saying. And I think what is happening, is you’re saying something so outragous that my brain REFUSES to process the information. Leaving me bewildered by recent developments.
Let me get this straight…you think that the studio behind shovel knight doesn’t deserve to state their opinion on how to mske good retro games??? And this is based on the fact that they don’t discount their games, and they take the genre too seriously…just to make sure I understand you. That’s what you’re going with?
I mean, we can wait for them to clarify, but the way I read it is that… it’s bad that they don’t sell their game for cheaper?
I profoundly disagree there, too. There’s this notion that pixel art games are inherently low-end, cheap stuff and that’s just not true. Plus games are too cheap these days anyway. I bought Shovel Knight full price (several times, actually), and while it’s not my favorite 2D platformer it always felt like good value. I mean, the soundtrack alone is worth the price of admission, and all the expansions are fun and worth playing. Even if they weren’t, the franchise now includes more interesting games I am glad their success was able to fund.
I agree with the sentiment. People think that non 3d graphics should be cheap because they don’t understand the amount of work that can go behind them.
Take chained echoes or sea of stars, two modern pixel jrpgs with “premium” prices. If someone thinks those games shouldn’t cost their full price, they are out of their minds.
Same with shovel knight. I bought the treasure trove and the amount of fun it has give to me puts so many 80€ games to shame.
Shovel Knight is flipping huge. I mean, sure, Treasure Trove includes what? Five full games in there, given their DLC structure. But even if it didn’t, I don’t think people realize how big these “retro games” are.
Shovel Knight is probably three, four times larger than Duck Tales, both in terms of assets and playtime. If anything, a pet peeve of mine with modern retro games is they all feel this compulsion to give you a five hour playthrough at least and that’s often too much for the older mechanics they’re leaning on.
Castlevania will last you an hour on a blind run and that’s perfectly fine, even if you get to that bar by having more content instead of being obtuse and difficult the way an older game would due to memory and budget constraints.