Dude it’s exactly like public transportation. Everyone allegedly supports it and pays lip service but then never wants to pay or use it. You’re acting like it’s so clearly bisected but it’s a venn diagram. Most people aren’t pieces of shit and don’t want people to be homeless, but then they’re unwilling to do anything to solve it because it requires money and effort. We also have internalized that a lot of homeless people “did something wrong” to get there, which doesn’t help.
You’re trying to oversimplify a complex cultural issue. That’s what is truly misleading here. I have no idea why you’re picking an argument with someone who probably largely agrees with you. But this site has quickly become reddit-lite so I’m not surprised.
Sidebar: That’s not what cognitive dissonance means. It’s a question of willpower/desire to actually help. No one wants people to be homeless but they also aren’t willing to do anything about it. That’s not cognitive dissonance.
Most people aren’t pieces of shit and don’t want people to be homeless, but then they’re unwilling to do anything to solve it because it requires money and effort.
Dishonest framing. The average worker has nothing to do with this issue. They are not the people we’re asking to solve this. Like I already said, it’s the political and economic elite. Capitalists. The state. Where is the worker’s money supposed to be sent? On what is their effort to be put?
We also have internalized that a lot of homeless people “did something wrong” to get there, which doesn’t help.
Yep, neoliberal chuds, as I said
You’re trying to oversimplify a complex cultural issue
How? What variables have I abstracted into a black box, here? What few mechanisms have I reduced the issue to? To me, “people want affordable housing but don’t wanna pay for it” sounds extremely oversimplified.
I have no idea why you’re picking an argument with someone who probably largely agrees with you.
I’m not “picking an argument with you” lol. I’m just correcting what I see as a defeatist, “what can we even do” attitude.
That’s not what cognitive dissonance means. It’s a question of willpower/desire to actually help. No one wants people to be homeless but they also aren’t willing to do anything about it. That’s not cognitive dissonance.
Sounds like semantic fudging to me. “These people need homes! No, stop building homes, it’s too expensive!!” sounds like cognitive dissonance to me.
When did I ever say we can’t do anything about it? You’re just making shit up now. I am describing a societal impulse, a general attitude. It clearly exists, as evidenced by the lack of housing for the homeless and the utter disdain we often treat them with.
There is a difference between what policies people support and what they say they support on an individual basis. People say they want infrastructure and good roads, but then suddenly they rage when it’s time to pony up. It’s not cognitive dissonance, it’s framing and understanding. It’s stated vs actual preferences.
I don’t get what you’re trying to accomplish here.
Dude it’s exactly like public transportation. Everyone allegedly supports it and pays lip service but then never wants to pay or use it. You’re acting like it’s so clearly bisected but it’s a venn diagram. Most people aren’t pieces of shit and don’t want people to be homeless, but then they’re unwilling to do anything to solve it because it requires money and effort. We also have internalized that a lot of homeless people “did something wrong” to get there, which doesn’t help.
You’re trying to oversimplify a complex cultural issue. That’s what is truly misleading here. I have no idea why you’re picking an argument with someone who probably largely agrees with you. But this site has quickly become reddit-lite so I’m not surprised.
Sidebar: That’s not what cognitive dissonance means. It’s a question of willpower/desire to actually help. No one wants people to be homeless but they also aren’t willing to do anything about it. That’s not cognitive dissonance.
Dishonest framing. The average worker has nothing to do with this issue. They are not the people we’re asking to solve this. Like I already said, it’s the political and economic elite. Capitalists. The state. Where is the worker’s money supposed to be sent? On what is their effort to be put?
Yep, neoliberal chuds, as I said
How? What variables have I abstracted into a black box, here? What few mechanisms have I reduced the issue to? To me, “people want affordable housing but don’t wanna pay for it” sounds extremely oversimplified.
I’m not “picking an argument with you” lol. I’m just correcting what I see as a defeatist, “what can we even do” attitude.
Sounds like semantic fudging to me. “These people need homes! No, stop building homes, it’s too expensive!!” sounds like cognitive dissonance to me.
When did I ever say we can’t do anything about it? You’re just making shit up now. I am describing a societal impulse, a general attitude. It clearly exists, as evidenced by the lack of housing for the homeless and the utter disdain we often treat them with.
There is a difference between what policies people support and what they say they support on an individual basis. People say they want infrastructure and good roads, but then suddenly they rage when it’s time to pony up. It’s not cognitive dissonance, it’s framing and understanding. It’s stated vs actual preferences.
I don’t get what you’re trying to accomplish here.