A recent study by researchers at the University of Padua and the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research (MPIDR) has revealed that political differences between partners can significantly increase the risk of separation. Using long-term data from UK couples, the researchers found that those with different party preferences were substantially more likely to separate than those with the same political beliefs. The risk is particularly high when there are differences of opinion on Brexit.
I wrote another comment about this friend that votes for a political party that would make Trump look like a liberal. Still not an issue, because we are both very peaceful people and we are not very pushy, so really even if there are differences we don’t try to hurt each other over those differences and we don’t take it as an insult or something of extreme gravity. Because once again, not everyone is extremely political. Even if you think they should be because the current situation mandates doe more political activism or whatever, it doesn’t mean that people are…
And second big reason is the reasons she has to vote for that party. She does it mostly in spite of the socialist party to bring them down because she thinks they are corrupt thieves (and as I said in the other comment sadly it has recently been proven to be right).
Also it’s important to understand that your vision of an opposite political party is not the same vision that the voters of that party have of it. In this example, and I’m sure it applies to trump as well, I think vox is a fascist political party. But she does not, she doesn’t think they are fascists and of course she doesn’t think of herself as a fascist (neither do I). She doesn’t vote it to stablish fascism. I remember saying to her that if they get elected they will cut right for women, she just doesn’t believe that’s going to happen, and that’s it, different believes on what’s going to happen if that party gets elected.
And I’m skeptical on my own knowledge of the future as well, before the current government was elected I said that the government wouldn’t do some things or some other things won’t happen, and those bad things ended up happening and I was wrong about those.
I think a big part of being open minded is knowing that yourself could be wrong, and being able to understand the reasons other people have to believe they are right. Not trying to make up those reasons for my own convenience. It would be easy, and politically convenient, to say that everyone who votes for vox (or trump in that case) is a fascist, but that statement would be closed minded and, probably, radicalized. People are complex, some would vote alt-right because they are fascists, but other would not. When engaging into any kind of relationship with anyone it’s good to listen to the reasons they have for the things they believe in. If a person would be a fascist I wouldn’t be friends of her, but that’s not the same, imho, as voting for a party that I think is fascist.
Yeah, I get that not everyone has time, energy, or even intelligence to look into all the political positions of a party, but some cases are so blatant that it feels like the most extreme type of willful ignorance to discount everything. I don’t know about your vox party, but like ok, the GOP has always been the party of hypocritical pieces of garbage, but maybe you never quite thought about how (for example) your single issue voting about fetus rights stopped immediately after birth, because fuck poor kids amirite? At least they’ve got the excuse that Faxist News paints every single person on welfare as lazy pieces of shit, and you don’t look further into that because why would the news lie to you about how lazy all those welfare queens are?
Maybe the first term I could see how idiots could be hoodwinked, but anyone who voted for Dump 2 is either stupid as fuck (severe cases of cognitive dissonance can fall into this category as well), or a rich amoral piece of shit, and I don’t think I’ll ever be convinced otherwise. Christians ignore all his rape convictions (because dozens of women are all lying jezebel whores, right?), or the fact that he’s never been seen at a church except for funerals or PR stunts (not that I think that going to church is moral, but they do). Poor people ignore the fact that he cheated countless blue collar contractors, was a slumlord, and hawked shit and sham products, all while shitting in gold toilets. Legal immigrants ignore his long and storied history of racism, and either don’t know or don’t care that he’s never shown an ounce of support for anyone non-white.
So basically it comes down to his voters being evil or not interested in facts, and they may not be outright fascist themselves, but I don’t really want either of those kinds of people in my life.
On the stupid front, for people not into politics they don’t get the same amount of facts as you to judge things, because they don’t care. So really there may not be that they are very stupid or willingly ignorant, os just, once again that politics does not play that big of a role in their lives.
And there is also a punishment vote. There is people who vote one party to punish other.
We tend to be more kind of the wrongs of our political option. But for some people they are unforgivable.
I suppose that some people would acknowledge that trump is bad, really bad, but for some reason they may think that Biden or the Democratic party is even worse.
Here that happens a lot and it’s going to happen in the next election. It’s not as much as people supporting one party, more like being really against the other party.
Once again, not American, and the places I frequent online are all left leaning. But I would really love to have calm conversations with some trump voters to really know and understand their reasoning. There’s a big chance that not all of them are either blatantly stupid or blatantly evil.
I also like to do the exercise of putting myself in as much perspectives as possible. For instance for truly fascist I’m a dangerous communist that want to do a lot of nasty things. That’s not true, so I always try to think if the things I think about other people may also not be true.