• solargeek@slrpnk.net
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    NATO members in general are too comfortable relying too much much on the U.S. defense umbrella. It is something the U.S. has been warning NATO members about for a long time. It’s meant to be a collective defense. What’s happening in Ukraine should be a loud wakeup call.

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      NATO members in general are too comfortable relying too much much on the U.S. defense umbrella. It is something the U.S. has been warning NATO members about for a long time. It’s meant to be a collective defense. What’s happening in Ukraine should be a loud wakeup call.

      I’m fine with NATO members relying on the US defense budget as long as they spend their money on socialist programs at home. The US could provide the best socialist safety net on the planet, and still outspend the rest of the world 40:1 on defense if it would just tax the rich. Tax capitol gains like income as well, and 80% tax on everything over 20 million a year, 95% tax on everything over 200 million a year, and 99% tax on everything over 1 billion a year.

      Boom now we can do the best socialized medicine on the plan and have enough left over to build a couple hundred new NATO bases where ever member states want them.

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      It’s something the US has basically enforced, it’s their excuse to things like military bases in Okinawa, which goes against Japan’s ideas of not having an army (even though the JSDF has broken this promise of sorts). More military spending it’s not going to bring any good to anyone, specially coming from Europe and its record, specially the Brits.

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        More military spending it’s not going to bring any good to anyone, specially coming from Europe and its record, specially the Brits.

        Ask the Ukrainians how they feel about the Brits rn

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          Ask any of this countries, also include a couple more, Argentina specially, and since we’re are it include all of Latin America since nobody wants them here, how they feel about the Brits. Ah, yeah, I forgot, one European country counts as x100 in contrast with a shitty third world country like ours in your book.

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        We’ve had multiple presidents get on their soapbox about defense budgets in Europe. One fat orange man in particular. He’s a corrupt idiot but he wasn’t wrong about that. The NATO % GDP benchmark is not onerous. Only military capability will deter some actors as clearly evidenced most recently in Ukraine.

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          Only military capability will deter some actors as clearly evidenced most recently in Ukraine.

          the ukraine was invaded therefore more military spending would deter russians from invading the ukraine?

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            Has Russia invaded a NATO country? No

            Should Europe have done more in 2014? Yes

            Would Ukraine have been destroyed if they hadn’t received training from NATO members since 2014? Maybe

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    These articles are in every country’s news media these days. The military industrial complex pushing tax payers in every country to ever increase their revenues.

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      I’ve only seen this kind of news regarding countries with imperial past, I have not seen much of “Raise the funds that go to the Bolivian Army” kind of stuff. Go figure.