Passkey is some sort of specific unique key to a device allowing to use a pin on a device instead of the password. But which won’t work on another device.

Now I don’t know if that key can be stolen or not, or if it’s really more secure or not, as people have really unsecure pins.

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      1. Since passkeys are basically asymmetric keys, SSH technically had “passkeys” for years.
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        Yes, but that’s missing the important part.

        Passkeys is not primarily about asymmetric keys. It’s about applying asymmetric keys to the Web as an open standard.

        The W3C Web-Authn standard is what makes it important and revolutionary.

        This is just as important as HTML, CSS and ActivityPub.

        Finally we have an open standard that integrates in the web and offers a high level of security.

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            It’s actually quite similar, yes, in the sense that it uses a public/private key pair linked to your account.

            But this works on the application layer and you don’t use certificates.

            Much easier to setup.

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          So first, no, all the files should not be accessible : There are special not “files”, but keys, like the key used for this method. These keys pose a huge security risk of they are leaked somehow. The key can be something used to encrypt the device/disk, encrypt a connection, and other things associated with encryption.

          And because of that security risk, they are often stored in a special chip or simulated chip (like the simulated tpm 2.0 on pc cpu), and not just “stored” so any malware or who knows what can access them just by reading the drive.

          Second, the key is never transfered. When you connect to another device, that other device will get another key. Or maybe could it be backed up somehow in case of recovery on another phone? But that would defeat the entire purpose of this.

          How Google can do to allow you to connect to another device if the first one is lost, not sure. But it would certainly either ask for a password and a 2fa method.

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            How Google can do to allow you to connect to another device if the first one is lost, not sure. But it would certainly either ask for a password and a 2fa method.

            That’s the key question. From what it seems, it would replace a password manager with different passwords for each website, but you give Google control of the master password.

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              It is not for the password manager…

              It’s just to connect to the google account.

              It is not a service to connect to other ones without passwords.

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          I just replaced my iPhone, and the few places I “sign in with Apple” still work in the new phone. Yes, you can back it up and restore to a different device. I assume you can also use it across devices but I haven’t tried that

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        i tested it on another device, it looks like it gets the passkey from the source device (not from cloud), i had to input the original device’s unlock pattern for it to work

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          And it’s expected as you still had that device. And it’s not the same key, a new key has been created for that new device. Now if that device cannot be accessed?