FTC lays out new rule that could end hidden fees | The agency is proposing a new rule that could require businesses, from hotels to ticket sellers, to provide clear disclosures on costs and whether…::The US Federal Trade Commission is proposing a new rule known as the Trade Regulation Rule on Unfair or Deceptive Fees that it hopes will stop businesses from charging consumers hidden fees.

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    1 year ago

    Hopefully this will include groceries. I hate when I go to buy something and it says $9.99 and I get up to the register and they hit me with this stupid, obnoxious hidden fee!

    I only have a $10 bill, it says it costs less then $10. Why is it not false advertising to have it say $9.99 when it costs $12.37 at the register?

    The whole thing is a scam.

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      1 year ago

      I heard someone say they don’t like coming to America because it feels like everything is trying to scam you at once and honestly yeah

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        1 year ago

        at least in the US pricing is somewhat consistent. Sticker price + local tax, which isn’t going to change shop to shop, just state to state or within city limits. If you go to China or the Middle East the “sticker price” is bogus and you’re expected to haggle with the merchant in many places.

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          True, haggle culture and the lack of it both have their pros and cons. Can’t really tell Walmart about an unexpected expense that came up and have them feel sympathy to lower the price lol. But also haggling for everything must be tiring. It’s also tiring feeling like I have no power over prices though, so yeah, pros and cons.

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            1 year ago

            As someone with social anxiety, haggling for a better price is my worst social nightmare. It would only benefit those with a large mouth even though the sales employee is objected with selling the highest price. Better go for competitive pricing that atleast is fair for both parties.

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      1 year ago

      That would be different. That would be an advertised price with their membership card that has built in coupons. With sales tax on top. Those aren’t technically hidden fees, and wouldn’t be effected by this.

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        1 year ago

        Meh, we computers that can do the math, and the labels are all printed. There is no reason why the labels can’t be sales tax included these days. I understand it is harder when running commercials or billboards, but in store there is no excuse.

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          Online you’d need to input your address before ever seeing pricing which I personally don’t care for. In-store would be easier from that perspective but there are so many exemptions and jurisdictions it would take a ton of work to switch over. Some tax code would have to be rewritten. Possible, but far more work than what the FTC is currently talking about.

          An example of one of these complexities. In 13 states, sales tax is collected on a Milkyway but not a Twix.

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              It’s not an issue of can or can’t, it’s an issue of the consumer not knowing why a Milky Way is $1.07 vs a Twix at $1.00. On the receipt they can see one is taxed and the other is not.

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                Does that matter to the consumer? Shouldn’t they know that a Milky Way cost 7 cents more than a Twix when picking their candy?

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                  1 year ago

                  Shouldn’t they know why? Does it just cost more or is it because the government is doing it?

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                1 year ago

                No one’s saying you don’t show the tax on the receipt. It’s not like no one has figured it out yet.

                The EU requires tax to be included in prices displayed to customers, and each country has their own specific country regional and local tax codes. They manage just fine, so can the US.

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                  1 year ago

                  The VAT rate doesn’t change inside each country does it? The US doesn’t have VAT, and the federal government doesn’t have sales or use tax.

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                    1 year ago

                    Yes VAT does change from country to country. Also VAT is more complex than sales tax in that it is applied to various consumer goods as well as some services.

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            The webside can just list prices with the highest tax rate in their database, absent a location. No one will ever complain about a price decrease when they go to check out.

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              1 year ago

              Until you’re trying to use a $10 off $50 coupon. This is constantly a problem at groceries stores. Multiple coupons, instant savings, and bonus points. You need a damn spreadsheet to make sure you meet each criteria.

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        1 year ago

        Because it was designed that way. In other countries its far more simple to implement.

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          1 year ago

          Right, but you’re talking about potentially changing how 13,000 Jurisdictions structure their taxes. Not an easy under taking.