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    I don’t know about you but I was just waiting for an excuse. I ain’t ever going back. It’s a brave new world for me, part of shifting my whole suite to FOSS. Leaving the old internet behind me.

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      In 2022 I was Windows + Twitter + Reddit. In 2023 I’m full-time Linux + Mastodon + Lemmy.

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        I’ve rid myself of reddit (never used Twitter thank God) but I’m still on windows. I just got a steam deck though and I’m loving the Linux desktop mode. What branch of Linux does the deck use? I know I could do a quick Google to find out but damn I love how well it runs. Linux isn’t nearly as scary as I thought

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          I’ll disagree with Taiyang about Manjaro; I think it diverges too much form Arch and much prefer EndeavourOS (which is what I’m using at the moment).

          With that said, I wouldn’t recommend anything Arch-based for a first timer. Quick sidebar: in Linux the “distribution” (the OS, basically - the variant of Linux) is separate from the desktop environment (the GUI). SteamOS uses the KDE desktop. If you like that, I think I’d recommend Kubuntu as a good Linux distro to start with. It’s Ubuntu with KDE instead of the default Ubuntu desktop, so there’s a ton of documentation and pretty much every app will work on it.

          [email protected] is very active and a great place to ask questions and/or read up, or feel free to DM me!

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            I personally wouldn’t push anyone away from Arch towards Ubuntu. Ubuntu broke with every major update and you always are running older “stable” versions of software unless you add a bunch of PPAs that are disabled on major updates and left to the user to sort out. And I’m not even going to get into the joy of Snaps. =(

            IMHO something like EndeavorOS or CachyOS would far and away be both more stable, and a better noob experience. Or if you’re just gaming, install SteamOS, because if you haven’t broken it on your deck you probably wouldn’t be breaking on your desktop either.

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              I love EOS, but it would be a lot to take in at once for someone new to Linux - learning KDE, the terminal, plus everything else (flatpaks, the AUR, and so on) is a lot. At least Kubuntu still has the familiar (to them) KDE but has a GUI app store and never needs to use the terminal. It depends how generally tech-savvy the person is I guess.

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                That is why I see Ubuntu as a non-starter unless you are prepared to deal with it’s crippled usage by default, because adding anything is a surefire way to have it implode on version upgrade. Meanwhile, on a rolling release, baring things that break for most everyone, you just upgrade when convenient and go about your day. I just don’t see Ubuntu as anything that should be suggested to anyone w/out command line knowledge and strong Google-fu, because it’s not if - but when will your system implode with Ubuntu.

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          Like taiyang said, SteamOS is based on Arch which is super not newbie friendly, but the desktop modes “desktop environment” is KDE which available on pretty much any Linux distro, including beginner friendly ones like (K)Ubuntu and Fedora (although I’m not sure how beginner friendly Fedora is, regarding proprietary drivers and codecs)

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          Oh, you’re like me! I did the dive into Linux, SteamOS is a fork of Arch Linux which is super not newbie friendly.

          Manjaro is a good Arch Linux fork that works well for gamers, though. Still not idiot proof, as I can atest to breaking it several times, but that’s the deal when you remove the training wheels off your OS.

          Lucky it’s easy to reinstall from a USB. A little less if you insist on a duel boot like me, but that’s mostly Windows being a jerk.

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        I ditched Windows because I could not stand them restarting my PC without my permission after an update. And ads! Fucking ads on my start menu.

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        Same, I didn’t know which server suited me so I created three accounts on various Lemmy servers and also one on kbin, but now I’m exclusively using just this account.

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      I wasn’t really looking for a replacement, just wanted to break my reddit addiction which was hampering my productivity. Lemmy isn’t a replacement in the sense, but a nice change and something new to try.

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      FOSS

      Same. I adopted a google account a long time ago, but I’ve finally hit my limit on what they’ve been doing with youtube and everything. Free and open source alternatives are the way to go, it may take a while to catch on or may never fully, but who cares. Switching to linux recently was the best thing I’ve ever done.

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    What this shows us is that more people are joining lemmy, but even more people are either leaving or going into lurker mode, as Lemmy only counts people who have commented or posted in that time period as active users, whereas most social media counts any activity while logged in as active. You have to realize that people who use reddit as Google search results don’t usually interact with the content there and most won’t even make an account.

    On the upside, with fewer people, it’s easy to get noticed here just by contributing good content since you don’t really get drowned out here because of the democratic upvote based sorting instead of black box personalized recommendation algorithms. So with relatively low amount of effort, you can make sure your content is being seen instead of relying on analytics and metrics.

    The last thing to in mind that Lemmy is only one aspect of ActivityPub, and Mastodon’s growth is currently the highest right now because of the ecosystem created by the whale fall of Twitter, which indirectly grows Lemmy as Mastodon users can post directly to federated Lemmy communities.

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      I just got recommended this site after posting on reddit re: predatory algos and the necessary regulations needed to protect people and how algos have manipulated the UX so much its disrupted the originally intended purposes; ie insta has effectively become a marketing and advertising platform.

      So in response someone suggested finding alternatives to the popular social media sites and used Lemmy as an example.

      I have been loving it thus far - its old school reddit.

      this is my first comment on lemmy!

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            I can see the arguments for both, to be honest. Ideally I’d like to be able to see statistics for both. Active Users and Active Contributors?

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              You can already see how many posts and comments users make. Isn’t that the same?

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                Well, as mentioned that is also covered by the Monthly Active Users metric that already is available. But in addition to that, I think it would be interesting to see the number of users who read and vote but don’t post or comment. Even though posting and commenting is the biggest part, actively voting is still an important part of the ecosystem.

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                  True, could be nice to see data on content consumers, and not just the content creators.

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          I changed the algorithms in programming.dev to take into account voters in the activity. Since stats are all calculated locally you can view any community from programming.dev to get the monthly active users including that change

          e.g. https://programming.dev/c/[email protected] shows 27.8k users/month on p.d which is almost as much as the value here for all of lemmy excluding voters

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            That’s crazy! User/month goes from only 7.5k active to 27.8k. And that’s just people voting. What about people who only read a post?

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      There seemed to be an influx of reddit users but probably didn’t like Lemmy’s own distinct user base (*nix users for example)

      I am kind of glad it settled down because I much prefer Lemmy over reddit

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      halfyear includes people trying out different instances; monthly shows just the one(s) they settled on

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    For anyone panicking, this is exactly like what happened with the transition from ICQ to AOL messenger, from MySpace to Facebook, from 9gag/etc to Reddit, and so on.

    Website makes a mistake, some people leave. Makes another, more leave. Each time this happens, more ‘main’ people of said website leave. Hell, I already saw PoppinKREAM here, so that’s a great start.

    So this is exactly how it always goes. The fact it is still here means it’s staying. Look at Threads, or Metaverse, whatever those things are. All dying or dead, barely lasted. Lemmy is still here, people are still posting, so just keep doing what you’re doing. It’s already working.

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    I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best

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      Very true. I’m still amazed how good lemmy is considering how small we still are.

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      100% agree. Have encountered a few jerkwads on Lemmy but hey, blocking works. The overall vibe here is 100x better than schmeddit.

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        Quick question regards blocking - how does it work exactly?

        When I block someone, I can still see their message. Just won’t get a notification. I thought, it would be blocked entirely - so I’m a bit confused.

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          Might depend on the instance or client. I’m using Liftoff. They cease to exist for me.

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          When a blocked user replies to my message I get no notification and might just see “1 more reply” or something like that but when I click it it wont load. Only when I sign out can I read it. However I believe that the blocked users can still see my messages just fine. Same with bans. I can see all posts from lemmy.ml but they can’t see mine.

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      Exactly. I don’t need the most users. The internet was better back when it wasn’t everybody.

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      People complaining about a loss of users are the same people that will complain about performance issues next time there is a huge influx of users that stresses the infrastructure for popular instances.

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    11 million comments this month. 11 million comments from people smart enough to leave behind the other. 11 million comments, likely largely from actual humans.

    Lemmy is thriving.

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    All the people returning and forgetting what reddit did and will continue to do. Then the next time reddit messes up, they will come back. 😔

    Edit: other stats seem pretty good though! Unless i am misunderstanding them.

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      The blue one doesn’t reset count every mount so it’s cululative. It means people come and go. There was a big Reddit rush and some people went back others got annoyed with the growing pains and went elsewhere. But the fact that it’s slowing down means it’s stabilizing to a dedicated community.

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      I would prefer to use Lemmy, but it simply doesn’t have some things that reddit currently has. It could in the future, but it doesn’t have the user base yet.

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      The half year probably still includes all the Reddit refugees, maybe that’s why it hadn’t fallen yet

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    so there was a wave of sign ups with the Reddit drama, and then people got bored. the graph looks about right to me.

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    Here’s the thing though… I’ve been on Reddit for over a decade before Lemmy, and whilst there may be less interaction the interactions themselves have been far more sincere. People are more willing to engage, and even with this random comment there’s a chance someone would comment below.

    The community feel of Lemmy is something, at least I’ve found, Reddit had lost a very long time ago.

    Sort of a quality Vs quantity thing I guess?

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    I dont get the hysteria, personally.

    I came here to escape the crowds, not migrate with them.

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      Once a site gets too popular it gets normified and it just becomes nothing but reposts, in-jokes and low effort crap.

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        Reddit’s appeal was never in the popular subs, but in the long tail. Forget about the dozen subreddits with million+ subscribers, what made it interesting is the thousands of subs with a few hundred active users.

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          You also have to realize that Reddit would squash popular communities that weren’t as advertiser friendly. Which led to the larger (bad) communities.

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    It doesn’t matter. I get all my news here and I can comment if I want. That’s enough

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    For anybody interested, the monthly active users including voters is 131,150 (131k)

    The one in the graph only takes into account people who have made a post or comment

    Edit: The halfyear active users including voters is 253,166 (253k)

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    FWIW Lemmy has fully replaced Reddit as my go-to toilet reading material, and I’m sure there are many other lurkers around here who don’t post much and thus don’t show up in these stats. The more niche communities are still lacking in content, yes, but these things are best left to grow organically over a long period of time to maintain quality. It was the same on Reddit too before the enshittification escalated.

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    For whatever anecdotal observations are worth, I’ve recently been seeing a huge uptick in activity from the userbase that is here. Maybe it’s been driven by posts like this one or memes about growing Lemmy, but people seem to be posting and commenting more than usual.

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      If lemmy has 100 users I’m one of them

      If lemmy has 1 user it’s me

      If lemmy has no users I’m dead

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      I don’t know about huge but the data on the same page supports the observation on post quantity. It’s still steadily increasing.

      Comments might be currently on a stable trend.

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        It’s also a common finding from those comparing replies to the same posts on Twitter and mastodon: fewer but better replies on mastodon.