Meta sneakily introduced “Platform Integrity Attestation API” which basically calls home to see whether the user has a valid license to play.
This means that to run apps user has to have online connection to perform an integrity test. Whether it’s only a test on launch or continues call home like Denuvo-like DRMs is not yet clear. This could also mean that modified headsets could fail to pass this test essentially closing down the device for modifications that could damage “platform integrity”. Not all details are clear yet but this doesn’t look good.
Currently it’s optional and up to app developers to enable it.
No fucking way I’ll consider buying one now.
My consideration was off the table after Facebook bought Oculus.
Or be like me. Get one then Meta buys the company. Z_z
Bad luck man. I would have bought a rift if Facebook didn’t ruin it.
I always wanted one, but when they made it a requirement to have and link a Facebook account to use it I completely lost interest.
Make a dummy one.
They make you send them your id…
No they don’t.
I have one. Not long after I bought it, it became a brick because it forced a software update that forced a Facebook sign in to use it.
That requirement has been removed for longer than it was in place.
Will I never picked it up again to find out.
Well now you can :)
Nah I’m good. Not really that cool anyway after a few hours.
Maybe one day I’ll get a Valve Index.
Maybe one day I’ll get a Valve Index.
But you’ve already got a Quest?
😂😂😂😂
Oculus was dead to me the moment it was announced Facebook was purchasing them.
We’ve reached a point that technology is not improving, but degrading – who on earth is going to accept this as is and let third parties acquire random information about them, including their credit card? I mean, if a hacker manages to bust (whatever feature that allows this bs to happen) and forward info to them instead of the meta HQ – they are going to have a heck of a honeypot.
All the shills promised me and other doubters that something like this would never happen. I’m glad I lost all interest in Oculus the moment Facebook bought them.
Hopefully we’ll see some solid info on the Deckard this year.Aaaaaaaaaand just like that, never buying a Facebook headset. Also because apparently they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.
Meh.
I’ll go valve index 2.0
This effectively kills beat saber custom maps, which is a large part of quest users. Currently, the custom maps mod already requires hoops to be jumped through but this is possibly way worse.
Lolol only if the beat saber devs willing implement the API that prevents sharing. Christ even on here assholes don’t read. It’s a optional API and OP is just socially engineering your rage.
Dance for your master you lazy Muppet.
I can’t imagine what kind of a bad way I’d have to be in mentally to end up buying a Meta product…
LOL
Master class in destroying a product line.
Can’t tell who is more clueless, Zuck or Musk? They both seem to be hell bent on ruining their own companies.
The one thing I am excited about is eventually seeing Meta cancel their entire Quest division and clearing-out all these VR devices for pennies on the dollar. At which point I would expect some enterprising hackers find a way to run them off a regular PC without needing them to phone-home all the time.
The whole metaverse shtick was ridiculous. Nobody asked for it, and yet they spent billions promoting it anyway
Meta has revenue of over $100B. So even if they flushed $10B down the drain on this stuff (10-15% of revenue on R&D), that would be right in-line with industry standards. What’s what you can do when you have such a ridiculous amount of money.
Liiiiiitle bit of an outrage attempting title.
The API is being added, it’s optional for developers, and the person that is quoted in the article even says that it’s not really going to be used for that.
Also there’s never been anything stopping developers from making their games “always online” to begin with, so this changes nothing.
This is like saying steam requires always online simply because an api exists for online checking drm.
Not a fair comparison to Steam as it allows indefinite-ish offline access as long as you check in once. This new Quest restriction has nothing like this. It’s more similar to DRM systems like Denuvo that call home on startup or during play time. The API also checks device integrity which means access to apps could be disabled for modified devices and Steam does nothing of sort.
The comparison was that the ability to enforce always online exists in steam, just like it will here. Neither will mandate it.
The ability to do this isn’t only being added now, it’s just that meta have made an api for it that developers can use if they want instead of writing their own.
Honestly I’m not as optimistic as you are. Official API gives implicit permission for DRM. Right now if an APP did this it would be review bombed and suffer backslash. With official API it’ll slowly normalizes DRM and suddenly everything requires online.
Quest is getting more closed with every release - remember when Facebook login was not required? The whole dev ecosystem is getting more complex with every update. This seems like an up-coming trend especially now that Quests main competition will be an extremely closed ecosystem of Apple. This will give Quest permision to basically lock down more.
My bet is that a year in most of the apps will have this DRM though I’d love to be proven wrong. I love my Quest 2 and only use it to draw/sculpt when I travel and that would basically kill the device for me so I might be a bit over protective of my hobby here but it really sucks when you buy a thing and somebody else tells you how to use it.
Only the nerds care. There is DRM on every damn platform or there except gog and nobody cares because it works fine and they aren’t the users who just want to steal.
You hear about a shitty DRM implementation like once a year. This is all just noise from pirates.
“Noise from pirates” is bullshit. Pirates generally tend to have a better experience with their media than legal users.
Lolol 👌 Plex is definitely more consistent then Netflix 🙄
This is such a “why does privacy matter when I have nothing to hide” argument.
God forbid my software check that it’s not stolen!
Hey did you steal that? Did you steal that? Is that stolen? No don’t block my line of sight I need to see if you stole that. Did you steal that? Did you steal that?
What a consumer experience.
Boycott Meta regardless of this
“Meta announces optional API to allow developers to get paid”
It’s painful how much you editorializing the article. You are basically fox news.
Who the fuck are buying shit from google and Facebook? No wonder fucking internet is going to shits
The quest is amazing. It’s cheap and completely standalone while also giving you the ability to use it with pc vr games.
Cant figure out how to delete my own comment. Ignore me