• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    10 months ago

    Something shouldn’t have to be free to be a human right. That’s an extremely right-wing American point of view, where they only believe in so-called “negative” rights.

    A right to housing wouldn’t mean builders and their suppliers have to work for free. That’s the same kind of nonsense reasoning libertarians and conservatives use to argue against free healthcare.

    A right to housing would impose an obligation on governments to do everything they can to ensure housing is readily available to anyone who wants it. Whether by ensuring that everyone can afford housing (economic policies that lower the cost of housing and/or put more money on people’s pockets) or by directly ensuring the government itself can give people a place to live if they can’t afford it. Ideally a mix of both.

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        10 months ago

        I mean healthcare is definitely a human right, but there is always more we could be doing. That’s a kind of arbitrary distinction that I don’t think adds anything to the discussion here.

        Basic human needs are basic human rights. I really do think it’s as simple as that.

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        10 months ago

        Umm, no. That’s just not correct. A human right is anything a human should have the right to. End of.

        The practicalities of how we achieve that are a separate concern.

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            10 months ago

            you have no rights at all

            Wrong

            Not even to speech, or the right not to be killed

            Wrong

            “Rights” are invented by the society we live in

            Correct

            You have literally none in the natural world

            Correct

            As it exists, “Rights” are a religious idea

            Lol what? Where did you even get that idea?

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            10 months ago

            Govt. does its best to ensure citizens aren’t murdered, yet it still happens.

            Shouldn’t housing be similarly considered a right like the right to life?