• gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Err… the Philippines, the former US colony? Where currently new US military bases are being built? Which China has never ruled, attempted to rule, or said they want to rule?

      You’re worried that China is going to claim the Philippines???

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        10 months ago

        They wouldn’t claim the Philippines without a war.

        But the Chinese government is trying to claim territorial waters, and their aggression toward all their neighbors is exactly why the Philippines have decided to work with the US and open new bases.

        They may not claim it, but they are definitely the aggressor in the territory, and most of their neighbors do not view the Chinese government as ‘the good guys’; that’s not to say they view the US as ‘the good guys’ either, simply as the one that isn’t actively aggressive and could assist in their defense.

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        10 months ago

        Which China has never ruled

        True, the CCP claiming The Philippines would be seen as ridiculous by the rest of the world.

        Then again, the CCP has never ruled Taiwan either…

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          Then again, the CCP has never ruled Taiwan either…

          Oh yeah that’s like exactly the same situation.

          1. Send US military to “protect” one side in the Chinese civil war and occupy parts of China.
          2. Say you’re in favor of eventual peaceful reunification, but actually prevent it for decades.
          3. Break promise and claim the territory was never really part of China to begin with.
          4. Pretend you’re the victim and China is “expansionist”.
          5. World War 3?
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            10 months ago

            Or, you know, you could actually respect the right to self determination of the Taiwanese people, rather than "America bad"ing your way to imperialism

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              The Taiwanese don’t hold the power, if you’re talking about the indigenous peoples. Taiwan wouldn’t be what it is now without imperialism in the first place. And the Chinese people in power don’t consider their island independent from the mainland, which they also lay claim to. It doesn’t seem like a clear-cut self-determination issue to me.

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              10 months ago

              Good idea. Maybe that’ll stop the at least some of uninformed comments here.

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        Anyone with even a smidge of knowledge about the actual situation of the Taiwan issue.

        Contrary to what’s usually depicted, neither Taiwan nor China consider Taiwan as an independent country. Taiwan, or more accurately the Republic of China (ROC), claims sovereignty over this territory.

        Both the ROC and the People’s Republic of China (PRC) consider Taiwan to be a province of China, it just happens that the ROC only has control over Taiwan while the PRC has control over China