I hate that whenever I check in to see how flat earthers are doing they’ve somehow grown in size
Like… Why
They have to do all this shoddy crackhead troll math to prove how something like timezones can work on a flat earth but then it completely invalidates the shoddy crackhead troll math they did to prove how gravity works on a flat earth.
People aren’t rational beings - we mostly operate on emotions, fueled by chemical reactions to certain events and sensations and experiences.
Most flat-earthers probably don’t care about any of the “facts” or “explanations” they hear or spread or study or come up with - first and foremost, it’s a community to them, a place where they feel like they belong and such. For their own reasons, they allow the obviously positive emotions they experience there to outweigh any of the absurd they may honestly recognize internally, but never admit or voice out or truly give in to.
I think I’ve seen several somewhat lengthy videos on YouTube on the matter, explaining how and why that happens. It’s a mechanism similar to other conspiracy theories and communities around them, as well as various cults - vulnerable, susceptible people are the ones to usually to end up in these because they’re reeled in one way or the other.
I’m not saying the theory isn’t nonsense, of course; only that the theory itself is probably only a facade for a way for some people to experience connection with others, a sense of belonging, some shared activities, something along these lines. That’s why you shouldn’t be surprised that their numbers grow or that they can easily ignore facts and science - it simply isn’t about facts or science, but emotions and feelings.
I’d argue this is at the root of all fringe theories and why they all seem to attract the same archetypes of people.
We are living in an era of history where long traditional societal norms are in rapid turnover. The “old ways of doing things” are dying off, and the new ways that replaced them are often a revolving door. Very little in the world at any given time feels stable and secure.
Institutional trust is breaking down. Interacting with the world in good faith is increasingly leaving you open to abuse by bad actors. Why trust anything, then? Trust is for rubes. You’re an intelligent, free, and independent thinker. You should question anything and everything that is simply handed down to you. Especially if it is unintuitive. To not do so is to be railroaded.
And it’s that last part in particular that identifies the most fertile candidates for a good conspiracy theory. Like, is the Earth round? It looks flat to me. Essentially all evidence you can throw at the notion falls either into at least one of, “I witnessed it, trust me bro”, “hope you like letters in your math equations” (people who can’t intuit math won’t be impressed by any proofs), or "you can do this experiment at home, you just need / so you can watch for ". A depressing sum of people in the world will remain unconvinced by any demonstration that isn’t simple, intuitive, and of an overwhelmingly obvious magnitude. Complex answers or answers that observe tiny effects are scams.
And just like that, we’ve abandoned rational thought and replaced it with trust-averse thought. We’ve invented the notion that the world is a hostile place where anyone trying to hand you something is an agenda-pusher trying to extract something of value from you. All of the world’s major institutions are shams designed to keep you complacent in some sort of world order that is merely using you. To participate in it is to further your enslavement.
In that hellish headspace, conspiracy theories almost feel like a haven. Finally! A group of real thinkers who share your frustrations about the world! The underground movement working to free us all from the hostile system!
Except, no. At best it’s just a bunch of people who are wrong indulging in a little harmless escapism. At worst it’s a mass of people getting Immanuel Goldstien’d by the very kind of well-spoken swindler they’re breaking their collective backs bending over to avoid in the first place. Regardless the form it takes, my hypothesis remains: proliferation of conspiracy theories is merely a symptom of a lack of trust.
At the end of the day people love being in the “in” group that knows everyone else is blinded by falsehoods and they’re above it all and “in the know.” Religion has been that for a lot of people in the past as well as in current times, pretty much every high control group is developed due to this mentality as well.
That’s the usual explanation that’s given, but how do they even profit? What do you sell to those idiots? (I suppose that since they’re idiots you can just sell them pretty much anything)
Your problem is you’re bringing math into it wrong.
You see, Earth is actually a hypersphere. You can get to Agatha, which itself appears as a normal 3d planet, through tunnels that twist ana to kata. That’s why water seems to sometimes flow uphill - that’s a sign that a tunnel might be close.
There you go. It’s got secret lore, it encourages learning math, and it gives people a hobby where they look for inconsistencies in physics instead of rejecting it. We could even make some interesting discoveries if people are going out trying to find places where physics is weird.
It’s basic math, if you want to reduce flat earthers, you have to cancel them out
I hate that whenever I check in to see how flat earthers are doing they’ve somehow grown in size
Like… Why
They have to do all this shoddy crackhead troll math to prove how something like timezones can work on a flat earth but then it completely invalidates the shoddy crackhead troll math they did to prove how gravity works on a flat earth.
It allows stupid people to have a community where they feel smart, and that they know something most people don’t.
I bet that’s not something they are used to
People aren’t rational beings - we mostly operate on emotions, fueled by chemical reactions to certain events and sensations and experiences.
Most flat-earthers probably don’t care about any of the “facts” or “explanations” they hear or spread or study or come up with - first and foremost, it’s a community to them, a place where they feel like they belong and such. For their own reasons, they allow the obviously positive emotions they experience there to outweigh any of the absurd they may honestly recognize internally, but never admit or voice out or truly give in to.
I think I’ve seen several somewhat lengthy videos on YouTube on the matter, explaining how and why that happens. It’s a mechanism similar to other conspiracy theories and communities around them, as well as various cults - vulnerable, susceptible people are the ones to usually to end up in these because they’re reeled in one way or the other.
I’m not saying the theory isn’t nonsense, of course; only that the theory itself is probably only a facade for a way for some people to experience connection with others, a sense of belonging, some shared activities, something along these lines. That’s why you shouldn’t be surprised that their numbers grow or that they can easily ignore facts and science - it simply isn’t about facts or science, but emotions and feelings.
I’d argue this is at the root of all fringe theories and why they all seem to attract the same archetypes of people.
We are living in an era of history where long traditional societal norms are in rapid turnover. The “old ways of doing things” are dying off, and the new ways that replaced them are often a revolving door. Very little in the world at any given time feels stable and secure.
Institutional trust is breaking down. Interacting with the world in good faith is increasingly leaving you open to abuse by bad actors. Why trust anything, then? Trust is for rubes. You’re an intelligent, free, and independent thinker. You should question anything and everything that is simply handed down to you. Especially if it is unintuitive. To not do so is to be railroaded.
And it’s that last part in particular that identifies the most fertile candidates for a good conspiracy theory. Like, is the Earth round? It looks flat to me. Essentially all evidence you can throw at the notion falls either into at least one of, “I witnessed it, trust me bro”, “hope you like letters in your math equations” (people who can’t intuit math won’t be impressed by any proofs), or "you can do this experiment at home, you just need / so you can watch for ". A depressing sum of people in the world will remain unconvinced by any demonstration that isn’t simple, intuitive, and of an overwhelmingly obvious magnitude. Complex answers or answers that observe tiny effects are scams.
And just like that, we’ve abandoned rational thought and replaced it with trust-averse thought. We’ve invented the notion that the world is a hostile place where anyone trying to hand you something is an agenda-pusher trying to extract something of value from you. All of the world’s major institutions are shams designed to keep you complacent in some sort of world order that is merely using you. To participate in it is to further your enslavement.
In that hellish headspace, conspiracy theories almost feel like a haven. Finally! A group of real thinkers who share your frustrations about the world! The underground movement working to free us all from the hostile system!
Except, no. At best it’s just a bunch of people who are wrong indulging in a little harmless escapism. At worst it’s a mass of people getting Immanuel Goldstien’d by the very kind of well-spoken swindler they’re breaking their collective backs bending over to avoid in the first place. Regardless the form it takes, my hypothesis remains: proliferation of conspiracy theories is merely a symptom of a lack of trust.
At the end of the day people love being in the “in” group that knows everyone else is blinded by falsehoods and they’re above it all and “in the know.” Religion has been that for a lot of people in the past as well as in current times, pretty much every high control group is developed due to this mentality as well.
Because it’s a business, there are people out there profiting from it and so it keeps growing
That’s the usual explanation that’s given, but how do they even profit? What do you sell to those idiots? (I suppose that since they’re idiots you can just sell them pretty much anything)
Probably the YouTube views alone make for a pretty penny.
Your problem is you’re bringing math into it wrong.
You see, Earth is actually a hypersphere. You can get to Agatha, which itself appears as a normal 3d planet, through tunnels that twist ana to kata. That’s why water seems to sometimes flow uphill - that’s a sign that a tunnel might be close.
There you go. It’s got secret lore, it encourages learning math, and it gives people a hobby where they look for inconsistencies in physics instead of rejecting it. We could even make some interesting discoveries if people are going out trying to find places where physics is weird.
It’s basic math, if you want to reduce flat earthers, you have to cancel them out