• Melkath@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    That is why the House exists.

    some old slave owners pitched a fit about not having power over more populated states.

    You are aware that when Congress as a whole was established, everyone owned slaves. Everyone.

    The House prevents all of the red states from getting together and patently overruling California.

    The Senate prevents the entire country being ruled by California.

    Only through striking balance through both checks can a law that impacts everyone be advanced.

    The system is build the way it is built for a reason.

    California can pass all the state legislation it wants. It needs to get a bill through both house and senate to impose their will on the other 49 states.

    If anything, the idea of the House of Representatives at a FEDERAL level is the stupid one.

    If we got rid of the Senate, we should just change the name of the country to The United State of California.

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      9 months ago

      You are aware that when Congress as a whole was established, everyone owned slaves. Everyone.

      Not even remotely true. Slaves were very expensive and only rich people could afford to buy and own slaves. Or did you mean everyone who established Congress?

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        I meant everyone who established Congress.

        Congress didn’t get established as it is by a slave owning south to the chagrin of the not-slave-owning-north.

        Slavery was only ever (very rightfully) addressed far after.

        That was the point I was making.

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      9 months ago

      You’re literally arguing that people shouldn’t get equal representation because you think land votes.

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        9 months ago

        I’m literally not.

        I’m saying checks and balances should exist because we are a country of states with different environments, different hardships, and different cultures, not a country of Californians.

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            9 months ago

            Okay, one more go at trying to teach Civics 101 to the one who cant walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.

            So 1 state having all the power is equality?

            In your mind, equal = Californian?

            1 large homogenized (probably too big a world for you, but you can google) population has the right to rule over every other population?

            49 groups of people get overruled because 1 of the groups has more people?

            That is why checks and balances are in place. To ensure EVERYONE gets representation, not just one powerful group.

            Each state does have States rights though, so they can do as they please with their group. Unless it is something that has successfully made it through checks and balances to be enforced on the nation as a whole.

            EVERYONE should be represented at the Federal level, not just the majority group.

            With your throwing around of the topic of slavery earlier in the conversation, I’d think you would be for that.

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                9 months ago

                Californians are the only people in America that have more representation than someone in any other state.

                They just cant steam roll the other 49 states in the Federal legislative branch because the Senate protects those 49 states from California, the state with the most legislative representation in America.

                Seriously dude, shut your mouth and read a book.

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                  Californians are the only people in America that have more representation than someone in any other state.

                  This is false. They are extremely under represented in the Senate, and the House scales with population.

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                    8 months ago

                    This is true, they have more representatives in congress than any other state.

                    Thank you for explaining how Congress works, and contradicting yourself in the process.