Toyota wants hydrogen to succeed so bad it’s paying people to buy the Mirai::Toyota is offering some amazing deals for its hydrogen fuel cell-powered Mirai. That is, if customers can find the hydrogen to power it.

  • tb_@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    And not every car requires a ton of lithium, like it would if everyone wants to go both EV + massive range.

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      10 months ago

      We really need a more nuanced discussion around EV’s.
      I see a lot of “gas bad ev good”. While gas IS bad, really bad, we also need to allow into the discussion all the ways ev’s are also bad, not just range, but environmentally.

      Hydrogen is really interesting to me

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        10 months ago

        The problem with all these discussions is they ignore that things improve with research. I fully expect we can find a better battery eventually. Supposedly we’re getting close to extending the maximum capacity and the charging time within the next few years. I also fully expect we can improve the economics of hydrogen.

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          10 months ago

          It’s also faster to fill the tank

          That’s not true. A hydrogen gas station needs to be under a high pressure to be able to fill up just one car. That pressure is gone after 4 or 5 cars. After which it’ll take 45 minutes to build up pressure again.

          You’re spreading doubt about EVs while promoting hydrogen while ignoring the known drawbacks of hydrogen.

          Simply stated, per mile or km driven it’s significantly cheaper to “fill up” an EV vs hydrogen. That’s due inefficiencies around hydrogen.