The crying “History” button at the top right sends its regards. Yes, the World Jewish Congress has published a report that demands Wikipedia add a feature to view the history of articles, see what actions were performed by whom, and “host forums and discussions within the Wikipedia community to address concerns about neutrality and gather feedback for policy improvements”. It also wants to force all admins and above to reveal their real names.

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        OK, maybe leave out the “drinking blood” thing. That’s way too close to blood libel for my comfort. Leave the criticisms in reality. There’s no need to say things like this when they’re literally committing a genocide.

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          I hate that there is a loud group of people reverting to actual antisemitism in their criticism of Israel’s genocide.

          I want to be arguing that a cease fire is necessary to save Palestinians. I don’t want to be arguing about a Jewish deep state that invented the Holocaust.

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          Maybe they shouldn’t larp a protocols of the elders of Zion fan group and draw fan art of it on all our maps? Because, like, I for one would really appreciate the fuck out of them stopping that shit.

          Also, want to see how long it takes me to find a post by a kapostani shutzstaffel killbot actually doing that? I don’t have social media accounts and am terminally sleep deprived, so my bet is above an hour.

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            Them (their government, not the people or jews in general) doing something bad does not make it acceptable to be racist. I don’t care how bad some social media post is. If your argument isn’t based in reality or it brings racism into it, it only works to decrease the legitimacy of actual criticism. Keep it to yourself if that’s how you feel. It doesn’t help anything.

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              This isn’t racist, this isn’t about fucking Jewish people, except ‘hey fucking stop speaking for a bunch of people you have basically no connection to, many of whom fucking hate you’.

              This is about a bunch of literal Hitler apologists larping a piece of shitty antisemitic czarist propaganda with real genocide, and I don’t care if it would be racist to say it about Jewish people, which I’m not convinced these assholes even are. Every sliver of effort spent being precise about ‘well we don’t know for sure’ is like immediately contradicted by one if these vicious shitty little monsters making a shitty rap narrating the war crimes as they do them live on video.

              And I think invoking racism here is potentially a bad faith tactic. I’m genuinely worried about the racism these monsters are normalizing for people who believe their shit about not only being Jewish, but speaking for all Jews globally, which I’m pretty sure isnt even a real thing except in aforementioned shitty antisemitic propaganda they’re literally treating like a checklist.

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                Every sliver of effort spent being precise about ‘well we don’t know for sure’ is like immediately contradicted by one if these vicious shitty little monsters making a shitty rap narrating the war crimes as they do them live on video.

                You said they’re drinking blood! They aren’t fucking drinking blood. It’s not about being precise, it’s about you spreading racist messages. Blood libel is a real thing spread about Jewish people, and it’s fucking racist.

                Also, saying you don’t think they’re real jews is just a no true scotsman fallacy. They are jews, though they don’t represent all jews. Every sufficiently large group has evil people in it.

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                  The thing is, the reason it would be racist to say that about a human of Jewish ancestry/heritage/religion does not apply to these rabid fucking fascist ghouls, because it comes from a book they’re larping. Like, on purpose, I’m pretty sure.

                  I just said it because it was a comically awful flourish, which theybe probably dobe because theyve done in just the past week literally every atrocious thing you can think of and a lot you hopefully cant, but you pointing out that its a shitty negative stereotype makes me think that’s why they would do it in a more official capacity. Like how they poisoned all the water they couldn’t steal. When I say “LARPing ‘protocols of the elders of Zion’” I’m not being hyperbolic; it genuinely looks like they’re doing that, but with real victims.

                  And I can’t be precious and sensitive to irredeemable monsters that genuinely seem like they’re trying to do a 100% speedrun of every possible atrocity. They probably are doing it, because they’re doing every bad thing they can think of, according to their press releases, on purpose with full knowledge.

                  And the ‘not Jews’ thing isn’t based on them being awful, but about an argument they once made about why it was okay to do some awful shit to other Jewish groups. Also the fact that they’re mostly literal Hitler apologists who(se grandparents) tried to literally participate in the holocaust. Also the fact that all the, for example, foods they say are theirs, are things they stole from Palestinians, not things they got from their ancestors.

                  Them claiming to speak for all Jews is just super fucking racist and awful and probably going to get real probably-innocent people, some of whom I’m kind of attached to, killed by well intentioned idiots. Hopefully not too many. Unrelated, not no-true-scotsmaning. Fuck em; fascists don’t get to have identities anyway.

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          Sorry I just find it really frustrating because that’s valid, and then they just do the fucking thing and claim to represent all Jewish people everywhere despite being led by a literal Hitler apologist, and I’m finding it really hard to care about which specific details they did or didn’t do, like asking if the bathrooms at Auschwitz were clean.

          Its not like they’re culturally Jewish anyway; their food and stuff is all things they pillaged from the locals. I’m convinced their holy book is some old czarist propaganda.