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    Yeah those are the articles I just mentioned that only consist of republicans talking shit about Biden. Once again, vitriol does nothing, especially make arguments for you.

    That’s a citation. You can offer a counter point but I doubt you’ll find one. Everyone knows Biden is weak.

    Putin was setting them up to invade MONTHS ahead of the election, he would’ve attacked either way

    He attacked under Obama and Biden. Russia did attack us once in Syria and trump had them annihilated. They knew Trump wasn’t going to play.

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      The “everybody knows” argument roughly translates to “I don’t actually have anything but I’m counting on a larger consensus to validate my opinion for me.”

      Not substantial enough dude. Until I see something factual I’m just going to interpret this as your feeling and not a compelling point in this conversation.

      You seem to have a grade school-level understanding of international politics. Not only is that not how they work, you’re misremembering. Russia did not attack us in Syria, he retaliated against Syria over a chemical attack. Russia took Syria’s side and opposed the US response to the counterattack.

      I guess you just don’t have anything substantial to argue with.

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        Not substantial enough dude. Until I see something factual I’m just going to interpret this as your feeling and not a compelling point in this conversation.

        Nothing would be factual enough for you.

        Russia did not attack us in Syria

        Don’t hurl insults especially when you don’t know what you are talking about.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html

        We fought Wagner and killed over 300. Putin learned trump want fucking around anymore.

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          Your source just says there were mercenaries, and paints a picture of horror if Russia actually sent troops and attacked, which means they didn’t. Thanks for proving me right!

          What insults?

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            Wagner. That’s a Russian pmc they use for deniability. It’s Russian troops.

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              Please explain how this is Biden’s fault, or makes Biden an unfit president.

              So far you’ve just alluded that “Russia would never attack if Trump was president.” First, we don’t actually know that. Second, Trump’s actions were to weaken Ukraine’s defense against Russia, further enabling the attack’s success once it was carried out.

              Third, Trump tried to add conditions onto aid already appropriated to Ukraine by congress.

              All you’ve got is optics. Still no substance.

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                Second, Trump’s actions were to weaken Ukraine’s defense against Russia

                Another liberals gas lighting attempt. Trump is the first president to sell lethal weapons to Ukraine. Had he not done that, Russia would have taken over Ukraine in the first month.

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                  Trump tried to quid pro quo congressionally approved funds to Ukraine, necessary to defend themselves. He didn’t have to sell anything to them, and still tried to add strings to aid congress already approved to get dirt on Biden.

                  It’s not gaslighting when it’s true.

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                    Not at all. He was concerned about the corruption. Just like Obama and Biden were.