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      7 months ago

      Actually read the brief article. May surprise you on what he says. Spoilers, he thinks should spend more of our money on health care for our people

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        What does trashing for-profit healthcare have to do with being woke?

        Republicans overwhelmingly are the ones that support laws that further privatize healthcare and allow this dynamic, and have been for decades now. It’s weird he’s trying to blame being woke on that.

        Maybe don’t take economic input from a largely irrelevant comedian.

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            He literally does in the article. I read it. That’s where I got this sick quote:

            Schneider pointed out, “We need to spend 100 billion dollars [on healthcare] instead of giving it to Ukraine forever wars, when we could end homelessness and get people healthy in one minute instead of just dumping our money.”

            What he gets wrong is that the law as it is allows the healthcare industry to be what it is right now, and we could actually support Ukraine and get our people healthy with the right prioritization in Washington. Rob is trying to blame something good for something unrelated and bad to assert a narrative you’re gobbling down.

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              No, what he is saying is we should solve our own problems before paying for others wars. 100 billion could do a lot of good here.

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                I agree with that vague statement but that’s not what Rob is saying. He’s saying rather than fund Ukraine we should heal our people. I agree about healing our people, but we can do it both by amending healthcare laws to not run the industry for profit.

                No qualitative service (such as healthcare, housing, education, etc.) should be run with a quantitative strategy, because the focus turns from providing an effective service to being profitable. The correct answer is to end privatized healthcare and pay it out of our taxes like these other nations Rob alludes to in the article. Healthcare and Education are every bit as important as a strong Military, border or travel infrastructure.

                If we did that there would be no problem funding Ukraine and keeping our citizens healthy.

                If we were to just divert Ukraine funds to Healthcare affordability it wouldn’t even make a dent in the amount of healthcare debt the American people have.

                • Americans are $220B in Healthcare debt
                • We have provided Ukraine with $75B to date.

                So Rob’s plan is unsustainable, weakens Ukraine’s stance against Putin’s aggression and still doesn’t solve the root cause of our healthcare problems.

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                Ukraine is far from a forever war, unless you’re proposing that Russia will keep invading them forever. They’re literally defending against a foreign enemy, you know, that thing that all soldiers swear to do. It is beneficial to Ukraine and to the United States for Ukraine to stand. If Russia expands into Ukraine then we’re back in a pre-WWII situation where a foreign enemy power is expanding across Europe against the will of every other country on the planet, except maybe China and NK.

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                  I don’t mind sending aid to Ukraine. I was only pointing out what Rob said.

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                    I get your approach on this but he proposes the absolute worst solution here.

                    Taking aid from Ukraine and shoveling that money into our dysfunctional profit-focused healthcare system is not going to do anything more than pad the pockets of healthcare corporations. The fact that he thinks we can just buy more healthcare instead of help Ukraine is so ridiculously dumb I can’t believe anyone would agree with him on that.

                    If you’re fiscally conservative you should be more focused on how to not need to spend more money in the first place. Within healthcare that’s going to require a focus off of profit and onto actually providing healthcare to citizens without the excessive profit margin overhead of today. Literally throwing even more money at the problem is the opposite of fiscal conservatism.