Researchers have predicted the collapse of the AMOC could happen any time between 2025 and 2095 — far sooner than previous predictions, although not all scientists are convinced.
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What if…
but other scientists are not so sure.
Is it just me who thinks we should act as if it is going to collapse soon, even if a few scientists aren’t sure?
But what if it’s all a hoax and we make the world a better place for no reason?
Won’t someone think of the shareholders?
I really hate this line of thinking.
“Making the world a better place” would be an enormous sacrifice for most people. There would be massive financial ramifications. Our quality of life would decrease significantly.
You can’t eat money. Our quality of life is already decreasing because of this. How do you think people’s quality of life in Europe is going to be when the Gulfstream current shuts down and stops bringing warm tropical water to them? Reducing our exploitation of natural resources is not a sacrifice, it’s the right thing to do. What we’ve been doing is wrong.
How do you think people’s quality of life in Europe is going to be when the Gulfstream current shuts down
I think you missed the hypothetical line of thought I responded to in which this is “all a hoax”.
Well, all their predictions were wrong so far
I’m so tired of living in a world of impending doom. This is hell.
And they know how to fucking fix it but don’t want to
It’d be like if in the movie Armageddon the government just said “Eh let’s see if it really will be that bad if it hits us”
IDK, I mean we know it’s to do with carbon but we don’t really know how to stop producing that in a timely manner.
Carbon is causing global warming. We know how to fix global warming because we are causing it, we just have to stop doing it.
This article is about global cooling which is bizarre and not something we expected would be happening. We haven’t got a clue why it’s doing that. It maybe natural, or it maybe it’s something we’ve done in a complicated way, but we don’t know so we don’t know how to fix it.
If this is just an ice age why may as well burn all the coal now to try and stave it off.
Although in reality I think this needs a lot more research before we do anything because this announcement makes no sense within our current understanding of the environmental science.
The doom depends on where you live. Florida? Yup, probably, but you where already living in hell. Europe? Iced up North Sea, really snowy north, big ice caps, Spain and portugal getting more cool…doesn’t sound that bad, to me personally.
We could try to vote people who will take action OR incentivize consumers to be more proactive BUT. Neither is ever going to happen.
I was having dinner with my brother’s family and we were watching an interview with some celebrity that my sister-in-law adores. Dude is heavy in green activism and lists fast food places which are bad actors for climate and also farmers rights, etc. So my SiL announces we are never eating at such and such place again (I can’t remember, I never eat fast food anyway). The very next night they order takeout from said fast food place. They also always order same day deliver from Amazon despite it never actually arriving same day, but they get packages every damn day. Tons and tons of packaging for crap they always throw out or give away to neighbors eventually. This isn’t unique to them.
This is MOST of America and I suspect the rest of the developed world. We are effed.
How rich are they to be able to afford that? Most Americans arent Tywin Lannister living in their castle getting fancy mail brought to them.
I posted this twice now.
But carbon taxes, externality corrections, cost of recycling plastic is in the cost of the product. Let the market fix it all. But no, people won’t even agree to raise taxes on fuel
Well that’s pretty scary… I mean, at least the scientists say that it’s more likely the current will just slow down rather than completely collapse? But then again, all the climate change models predicted a much more conservative timeline on when we would be experiencing the effects of climate change than what is actually happening in the real world now… so idk, scary shit man ☹️
they also have admitted to only announcing the most optimistic results because nobody would believe them if they didn’t, and if people did it would be devastating
Ugh, and of course because of that people have been dragging their feet on making necessary changes to the point of doing basically nothing anyway… I feel like the risk of people saying it’s too extreme maybe would have been worth instilling a sense of panic in people over climate change? Feels panic worthy to me
We have become so politically correct that giving people upsetting thought may actually kill us all.
Actually this is one of the climate issues I am not that worried about. Yea it can happen, yea there wil be problems but even in climate models with 0 sea currents , the winds will make up for most of it. It won’t be a km of ice covering Europe etc.
More worried about extreme weather that happens with or without the amoc
Nobody is claiming that there will be a literal ice age here. What part of Europe are you from where people actually think that will happen?
Even a small change in weather patterns can have disastrous consequences across many industries and aspects of society however, and must be taken extremely seriously. Will this be an apocalypse of biblical proportions? No. Will it plunge us into various types of suffering and despair? Yus.
Sure, Lots of issues. But a big probl is that the nuances of science is often missed when reporting on this issues , and gives fuel to deniers and lobbying organisations.
Regarding the golf stream the data is very inconclusive. Direct measurements have only been going on for about 15 years and at least 30 is needed to make any tendencies known.
15 degree cooler in winters if you dismiss the wind taking the place for heat transfers. I do agree that if we do not know exactly we should consider the worst case scenario. My problem is that the media reporting is counter effective since it report in the way it does.
