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        1 year ago

        Probably - but not as easy as your android device. Ask the black hats if they prefer their victim on iOS or android - it should help identify the most insecure device.

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            1 year ago

            No - that would only be true if both OS are equally secure in the first place. No matter how you behave you are limited by that. So equal behaviour on each system does not yield the same result.

            Freedom is not security or privacy, but sure you (or someone else) can change your dialer on android and that can’t be done on iOS.

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              Freedom is not security or privacy, but sure you (or someone else) can change your dialer on android and that can’t be done on iOS.

              Technically you’re right, but I guess op meant that that freedom let you degoogle the device pretty easily, which turns it so much more private.

              Talking about privacy on stock OSs is a waste of time because we all know both Google and Apple are getting lots of data from their avg user.

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                1 year ago

                I’m not sure you can compare the is to each other. It’s like comparing Ubuntu to Windows and say they are equal as you can demicrosoft windows.
                I’m not sure you can compare apple to Google either. One gives away their os for free and make their money from user data, the other charge their users silly amounts and make their money from devices and cuts of app publisher’s sales. To me that’s a big difference.
                As any user can install an app that “takes over your internets” without rooting there’s only trust keeping other apps from doing the same. Customisation comes at a cost, and many people don’t understand that.

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                  I’m not sure you can compare the is to each other. It’s like comparing Ubuntu to Windows and say they are equal as you can demicrosoft windows.

                  That’s simply not true. You can install either Linux or Windows on your Desktop, but when you buy a phone you basically stuck with the OS. (You can flash LineageOS but it’ll still be android)

                  I’m not sure you can compare apple to Google either. One gives away their os for free and make their money from user data,

                  Not sure it’s true either, I heard that companies have to pay for Google for putting Google services on their smartphone lines. I might edit to add a source later.

                  As any user can install an app that “takes over your internets” without rooting there’s only trust keeping other apps from doing the same.

                  But when it’s open source and reviewed, while being backed up by bodies like mozzila (looking at you rethinkDNS), it’s way better than your other options. Also, if you don’t trust and app just don’t use it? Web versions are good enough for most cases. And there you have Mull (hardened ff for android) with uBO to protect you.

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                    1 year ago

                    This is pointless - I don’t agree to the view that iOS and Android are equal - anymore than windows and Linux are equal.

                    The same goes for the companies behind - one sell devices the other sell ads through their free services.

                    The customisation you speak about is the same like what browser-bars introduced on pc’s ages ago. Some users have a good working one, but non technical people can end up being tricked in adding one without understanding. That is why it has a cost - nobody can easily swap out the dialer on iOS to listen in. On Android it’s standard functionality

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                Technically you’re right, but I guess op meant that that freedom let you degoogle the device pretty easily, which turns it so much more private.

                That is what I meant

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        Technically that would make it expressly LESS secure. Is that your aim?

        Regarding privacy, Apple does end to end on the vast majority of their services. Their servers are set up using a unique, physical key, that is then broken so once running, no one can get to the data.

        Apps are sandboxed. Most every sensor or feature is gated behind a user setting to allow/deny.

        But the most critical, Apple is a hardware company. The lions share of profits come from hardware. Google is an ad service/data manager. Probably one of the biggest reasons they dove right to amassing market share by licensing the OS to everyone outside Apple. It certainly helps their vested interests.

        Trust whomever you like, but most things are true to their nature. Whether you want to believe it or not.

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          1 year ago

          If you root a phone then you can remove alot of insecurities and also if you unlock the bootloader you can install something more secure like calyxOS

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            If you root your phone you can go both ways and give your security a good night kiss. It is important what kind of phone it is as well. Android devices are a wild world where you can stop getting any updates last week. Also, being able to unlock bootoader does not mean you will get the ability to install any rom you want. Usually this only counts for more expensive devices. Otherwise you might be lucky to get a rom maintained by one guy from India who is taking care of 5 other roms.