Drag shows are not necessarily pornographic, they’re often just theatre and comedy, and I’m confused how you got this impression that they are pornographic.
The most well known drag queen in Australia for decades was Dame Edna (now deceased) and no one would have batted an eye at going to watch her perform with work colleagues.
Sure… But you’re using a bad example. And I think that’s part of the point… lots of people are lumping things in that just isn’t a “drag show” into it to make it out that people like me are anti-whatever.
If we use your example… It’s not a drag show… it’s a character. One that was put on specifically for comedy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Edna_Everage “Drag” isn’t even mentioned on the page. Dressing in drag and putting on a comedy show isn’t the same as a “drag show”. Eg. RuPaul’s proclivity to pole dance and emulate sexual acts on that particular televised series.
Oh so my example of a man, dressing as a woman, and doing a performance is a bad example because it doesn’t fit your clearly borderline pornographic concept of drag shows but I’m missing the point?
No… mandating a corporate retreat to be at any potentially sexual shows are or anything even remotely related to those topics. But you’re so hung up on some random fucking minutia that you can’t see the forest for the trees.
mandating a corporate retreat to be at any potentially sexual shows
Ahh you were so close to spotting your doublethink.
Remember when I said?
You must think that all women on streaming sites are cam girls by that logic.
We can’t endorse people in the office sharing Youtube videos because it’s potentially sexual!
That’s what your logic boils down to. Each drag show needs to be judged based on its actual content and not preconceived notions.
Also there are absolutely workplaces that include borderline sexual content in after work events, including movies! Some movies even have sex scenes! We can’t go watch Shrek because they kiss and imply inter-species relations!
Also there are absolutely workplaces that include borderline sexual content in after work events, including movies!
Any place that MANDATES this would be sued. So no. You’re wrong.
You can bring up whatever platitudes you want about “cam girls”. Mandating ANYTHING sexual in any form is literally company authorized sexual harassment. It’s a big no-no.
A drag show is a form of entertainment performed by drag artists impersonating men or women, typically in a bar or nightclub.Shows can range from burlesque-style, adult themed nightclub acts to all-ages events with sing-alongs and story times.
Using sources that people have linked AGAINST me… It shows the same thing I’ve been talking about. Just because all of them aren’t this way doesn’t mean that it’s magically okay to do as a mandated corporate event.
It’s in the quote as a RANGE of possibilities. Meaning that the show ranges from NC17 to PG. The fact that half of the range is inappropriate for corporate events is literally sufficient evidence that it’s not suited for a MANDATED corporate event.
Is going to a movie theater inappropriate for a corporate event? After all, movies range from NC17 to G also. You might say no, you can choose what movie to see and it’s simple to pick one that’s not graphic and appropriate for work. And I would say, it’s the same way with drag shows.
Well… I’ve run into people here on Lemmy that legit believe that it’s okay to take your workers out to a drag show as a corporate event.
So I’m sure that there’s plenty of people that believe that softcore porn is on the table during work hours.
Drag shows are not necessarily pornographic, they’re often just theatre and comedy, and I’m confused how you got this impression that they are pornographic.
The most well known drag queen in Australia for decades was Dame Edna (now deceased) and no one would have batted an eye at going to watch her perform with work colleagues.
Sure… But you’re using a bad example. And I think that’s part of the point… lots of people are lumping things in that just isn’t a “drag show” into it to make it out that people like me are anti-whatever.
If we use your example… It’s not a drag show… it’s a character. One that was put on specifically for comedy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Edna_Everage “Drag” isn’t even mentioned on the page. Dressing in drag and putting on a comedy show isn’t the same as a “drag show”. Eg. RuPaul’s proclivity to pole dance and emulate sexual acts on that particular televised series.
If you think Dame Edna wasn’t a drag performance you’ve lost the plot.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_show
The way you’re equating all drag performance with pornography or “lewd acts” is equally ridiculous. Not all drag shows are dancing.
You must think that all women on streaming sites are cam girls by that logic.
You are very clearly anti-something, by the looks of it anti-intellectual might be a start.
I specifically AGREED with you that you were right that all shows are not necessarily pornographic… The fuck dude? Are you dumb?
Oh so my example of a man, dressing as a woman, and doing a performance is a bad example because it doesn’t fit your clearly borderline pornographic concept of drag shows but I’m missing the point?
Please elaborate.
No… mandating a corporate retreat to be at any potentially sexual shows are or anything even remotely related to those topics. But you’re so hung up on some random fucking minutia that you can’t see the forest for the trees.
You’re on the right track…
Ahh you were so close to spotting your doublethink.
Remember when I said?
We can’t endorse people in the office sharing Youtube videos because it’s potentially sexual!
That’s what your logic boils down to. Each drag show needs to be judged based on its actual content and not preconceived notions.
Also there are absolutely workplaces that include borderline sexual content in after work events, including movies! Some movies even have sex scenes! We can’t go watch Shrek because they kiss and imply inter-species relations!
Any place that MANDATES this would be sued. So no. You’re wrong.
You can bring up whatever platitudes you want about “cam girls”. Mandating ANYTHING sexual in any form is literally company authorized sexual harassment. It’s a big no-no.
yes it is?
you’re thinking of burlesque. Burlesque has implied nudity, drag shows are comedic.
From the link @cypher linked at this post https://lemmy.world/comment/2475000.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_show
Using sources that people have linked AGAINST me… It shows the same thing I’ve been talking about. Just because all of them aren’t this way doesn’t mean that it’s magically okay to do as a mandated corporate event.
Just because you don’t highlight ‘all ages events’ doesn’t mean it’s not part of the quote
It’s in the quote as a RANGE of possibilities. Meaning that the show ranges from NC17 to PG. The fact that half of the range is inappropriate for corporate events is literally sufficient evidence that it’s not suited for a MANDATED corporate event.
Is going to a movie theater inappropriate for a corporate event? After all, movies range from NC17 to G also. You might say no, you can choose what movie to see and it’s simple to pick one that’s not graphic and appropriate for work. And I would say, it’s the same way with drag shows.
Yeh there is a huge double standard on this site.