Julian Assange is free.

After living in a cell for more than 5 years, he can soon go home and meet his family again.

I’m wondering if it was worth the sacrifice. The governments and tech companies are spying more than ever on everyone.

  • Zoldyck@lemmy.world
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    He’s a traitor, and because of him many people died. I hope he’s not ok. Edit: downvote me all you want, but that won’t change the fact that Assange gave very sensitive information to regimes and dictators that has gotten innocent people murdered.

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      Are you talking about the claim that he endangered CIA agents? That was just some bullshit they cooked up to get him on, and I don’t think anybody even claimed that somebody actually died.

      Imagine thinking exposing the CIA should be a crime, because the poor small beans CIA agents need protection. Who wouldn’t want to protect imperial blackmailers, hit men, weapons smugglers and death squad commanders?

      You are the traitor for siding with the oppressor.

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        6 months ago

        You are the traitor for siding with the oppressor.

        Right supporting Lukashenko’s regime is such a noble endeavour!

    • Vipsu@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Assange is a citizen of Australia and since The United States is known for spying on its allies the act of exposing US informants would be closer to serving ones own country than act of treason.

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      Yes, but that’s not treason. It could be treason if he was American, but he isn’t.

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      6 months ago

      @[email protected]

      Bush, Trump, Clinton and Biden all got more innocent people killed than Julian. Their crimes all dwarf anything he is accused of let alone is guilty of. If you are not a literal bot, you have allowed yourself to be programmed by intelligence agencies into hating the man who exposed the crimes over the men who committed them.

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      The consequences of doing a bad thing are on the person doing it, not the whistle blower.

      If they wanted to keep their secrets, they should of made sure they weren’t so fucking rough. Nobody would of leaked any files if those heli pilots were saving children instead of joking after killing them.

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      You might be interested to learn about a couple actual trained spies. guess what they were accused of?
      Treason is not what you think it is. Its a nice word to throw around when you are angry at someone but it has a very specific meaning.

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      Snowden is also considered a traitor, I really don’t give a shit who the US says is a traitor. I only wish the worst for people working for 3 letter agencies.

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        Not a bot. Assange helped regimes and dictators to kill US informants. Innocent people in Syria and Belarus for example got murdered because of the information Assange gave them. Look it up if you don’t believe me.

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          Zoldyck is not lying.

          Look up Assange and his connection with Israel Shamir, who helped Lukashenko’s regime in Belarus target opposition activists.

          This wasn’t a mistake, he knew what he was doing.

          People just buy into the PR around him (also spread by security services in russia and not only) without taking a critical look at his actions.

          Do better!

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            Sure he had some shady connections, but all accusations of actual wrongdoing supposedly comitted by Assange himself were brought forward, sourced and verified by the same US authorities, that employed or protected the criminals he exposed, which makes them basically worthless.

            What he actually DID do without a doubt is do the people of this planet a massive service by releasing proof of countless warcrimes, spying and other illegal activities by US agencies and individuals.

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              Sure he had some shady connections, but all accusations of actual wrongdoing supposedly comitted by Assange himself were brought forward, sourced and verified by the same US authorities, that employed or protected the criminals he exposed, which makes them basically worthless.

              Opposing the Lukashenko regime is being a criminal?

              I get tankies and right-wingers, they actually know what Assange is about.

              But allegedly well meaning people thinking that he is some sort messiah or saviour, that’s what’s sad.

              He is a genuine supporter of russian imperialism and he has no qualms with sending opposition activists to hellish prisons, all the while positioning himself as some sort of fighter against US imperialism.

              Former russia today employee, Julian Assange after British prison, Volodymyr Tsema-Bursov, Ukrainian POW, after 20 month in russian captivity.

              And Assange support the russian regime and enables what they do to captives.

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                Nah dude, your brain is cooked beyond saving if you blame Assange for what the russians decide to do with public information. Not even worth responding to this schizo level response tbh.

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            Then prosecute him for that. But the US doesn’t care about activists, does it? Why do you think US is after him specifically?

            What about, what about, what about?

            Post the actual proof rather than a link to a wikipedia article.

            You do BETTER.

            • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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              The Wikipedia article is a good starting point if you wanted to actually get an alternative perspective.

              But you don’t.

        • pop@lemmy.ml
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          Regurtitating the same talking points your government uses for people that reveal its atrocities are “bots” no matter how you spin it. There are tankie bots and you are a wankie bot.

          Tell us more about how revealing war crimes and global surveillance are traitors, bot.

          • Zoldyck@lemmy.world
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            Try looking up the definition of the word bot. You might learn something today.