• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    An individual person starting or stopping to give money to an entire industry does not change the industry from being profitable or not.

    talk about a straw man.

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          5 months ago

          It is very understandable why you would now try to back down off of your claim that a single person should be able to change an entire industry from being profitable or not. It is fine to admit you were wrong though, it does you no favors to try to act like that was never your stance. The comments are all still there.

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            5 months ago

            that isn’t the claim i made. in fact, its remarkably similar to the one you are making.

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              5 months ago

              And yet here you are claiming that if people abstaining don’t result in their profit going down, then abstaining does nothing.

              we have evidence people abstain. we have evidence that the production increases. there is no evidence that abstaining from buying meat has ever reduced emissions.

              It is obvious that you really don’t want to be responsible for your actions. That is the heart of this issue. No amount of going back and forth with me will do that for you. It is you who needs to look at what you do. If you think funding other people to do terrible things that hurt the environment doesn’t actually make you responsible for those horrible things, then no amount of explanation will change this for you. Even if you get me to say “you are right, you can pay anyone to do any terrible thing that brings you pleasure, and you have no moral responsibility for this”, it still won’t make it true. This isn’t hard to see. It just takes you to be willing to analyze it honestly.

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                5 months ago

                you are right, you can pay anyone to do any terrible thing that brings you pleasure, and you have no moral responsibility for this”

                another strawman

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                  5 months ago

                  It’s I possible to have a conversation with someone who constantly pretends like they didn’t say what they did. I’ve given you all the information you need to take your next steps, now it’s on you.

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                    5 months ago

                    It’s I possible to have a conversation with someone who constantly pretends like they didn’t say what they did.

                    real pot and kettle situation you’ve made here

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                5 months ago

                And yet here you are claiming that if people abstaining don’t result in their profit going down, then abstaining does nothing.

                i’m not discussing profit at all. i’m talking about emissions.