Long overdue
I’ve been picking fights on reddit about this. My feeling is that X has become a neo-nazi platform, and anyone who stays on there is implicitly endorsing fascism. The popular sentiment seems to be that, even if you accept this as true, it doesn’t extend to music artists because they need to promote their music to make money. My personal feeling is that music artists do not get a pass. I don’t care if you are trying to make money. Preventing fascism is more important than making money. There are many non-fascist platforms that you could promote your music on.
Am I off base with this? I mean, I hate corporations and capitalism and view them as the main evils of our modern world, yet I work for an evil corporation at my day job. I think I get a pass because I need to make money to live. Am I a hypocrite?
Most people aren’t going to put their livelihood at risk because it’s morally right. If they all hopped ship overnight it would be a different story, but until the dominos start to fall they’re too ingrained to make it likely.
I do agree with you, everyone has interest dropping the platform, but at best I can see some mirroring accounts just in case.
They’re always welcome to get a regular job. They’re not choosing what they have to do to survive, they’re choosing what they want.
Nobody said anything about surviving? These are people who worked for years building a career that means something to them.
What you said wasn’t incorrect, but it is about as useful as telling someone “just learn to code!” with an added layer of moral superiorityIt’s also worth noting that most jobs you work are going to be for a corporation of some kind that ultimately has some kind of negative impact on the world in some way. Should they quit making music and go work for Amazon instead? What if that’s the only job they can get? Maybe they don’t work for Amazon but they work somewhere, contribute to pollution every day, and work for an employer that lobbies for billionaire interests or uses materials that were sourced from horrible working conditions or flat out slave labor. On that note, is your phone ethically sourced? Your shoes? All your clothes? You’re sure you haven’t contributed to sweat shops by buying from the wrong sources?
It’s difficult to exist in this world and make money while having zero negative impact, and not making money isn’t an option for the vast majority of people. I think when you really think about it you’ll see that you almost certainly engage and support in ideas you don’t support, just by accident as a consequence of living, and leaving x isn’t a solution for everything that you think it is.
Of course it’s real easy to make this statement when it’s someone else making the sacrifice.
Musicians also need money to live so why don’t they get the pass?
Yeah that’s kind of where my mind is changing. However, I do think the conversation is different depending on whether it’s an unsigned indie artist vs. Billie Eilish. Billie is gonna sell her records and tickets whether she’s on X or not, and besides, she’s probably made enough by now to never need to work again.
You’re right, and those with a following are the important accounts that would help get the others to leave
It’s cool to watch Twitter dying. Specially as its death is so tied to how it works - once the key actors of a blogging platform leave, the others simply follow fashion.
Does anyone want some popcorn?
Does anyone want some popcorn?
Yes, always.
stop embedding and referencing tweets in articles too.
Pleeeease! Twitter is broken and embeds have stopped working half the time.
To go to Mastodon?
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To go to Mastodon, right??No, but hopefully THIS leopard won’t eat their face.
It’s like people don’t learn.
Closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
A bit late but still, better late than never
Conflicted if this is actually good.
On one hand, Twitter has become a real neo-nazi platform that openly spreads misinformation/propaganda/rage-bait in the guise of ‘free speech’ with the owner also abusing their powers by stealing handles and censoring and whatnot. The world would be better off without it if it were to die.
On the other, Twitter is still quite a big name with a lot of influence, with alternatives being much more niche. If every decent person was to leave the platform and all that’s left are neo-nazis and “good-faith-neither-left-nor-right-people-who-always-strangely-support-the-right”, it’s just going to make recruitment much easier.
I don’t think so. If people leave and the only reputation you’d hear about the platform is that it’s full of shit like that, you won’t have any reason to start an account in the first place, since there’s no “normal” content with which they’d first hook you in, before they can slowly start changing your views.
If the serious content remains, you’ll get people signing up for that content, only to be slowly manipulated into whatever The Algorithm feels will drive the engagement (which is probably fascism). If there’s nothing in the first place, you don’t have that hook.
Let it die.
Shaming the platform is a great way to make fence sitters leave, even those that are “good-faith-neither-left-nor-right-people-who-always-strangely-support-the-right”” that don’t want to come of as that kind of person will leave if staying there makes you look bad. KKK fell apart partially because of a shaming campaign if I remember correctly.
