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    “we have no choice but to follow Reddits guidelines”

    There’s another choice, but that would require you to look past reddit.

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            !lemmyworld

            We have previously asked moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification when this was suggested in context of murder or other violent crimes. Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.

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          Not true - we’re just not allowed to discuss jury nullification in the context of encouraging someone to commit a violent felony which includes the promise of absolution through jury nullification.

          Or something, idk. It was kinda weird.

          Jury nullification as two English words that can be spoken one after the other, however, is perfectly allowable.

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      Not that the mods are aware, but if Reddit disappeared tomorrow, I (sadly) suspect most users would go to Twitter or various Discords.

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          I’ve thought about it as some of my niche interests have dried up on Reddit and apparently only live on Twitter now.

          And maybe Discord. It’s hard to tell because it’s closed, but I see hints of discussion spilling out into GH issues or whatever.

          I despise both for different reasons, but where else am OlI gonna go if I actually want to talk with the community?

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      They even have to leave, they just have to ignore the admins and become ungovernable.

      But they won’t, because they’re cowards.

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      You plant shit seeds, you get shit weeds. I hate the fact that Reddit has grown since I bailed over for API changes. It hurts my soul knowing I did the right thing and bailed but the vast majority of people who were pissed off at Reddit ended up back on the platform.

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    we have no choice

    You are working for free moderating an obviously heavily censored shithole. You have several choices, starting with deleting your account.

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      Reddit has come forth saying they will not tolerate mods that try to destroy communities like it happened before. If a mod deleted their account, someone else will take their place. If a mod deleted a popular subreddit, Reddit will restore it and ban the mod. Deleting their account does literally nothing.

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        Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.

        Which I know will never happen, but that’s what it’ll take.

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          Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.

          The thing any sub with big following has mods that don’t mod for free.

          The narrative steering is not a free service.

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        Deleting their account does literally nothing.

        bullshit excuse. Deleting their account removes them from the equation, makes a statement that they are not enablers of the corporate shithole.

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          Eh. Sure. But ultimately makes no difference in the matter. You can’t make a statement when you’re literally irrelevant.

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            Speak for yourself. Speaking up against what one perceives as wrong and distancing themselves from it is absolutely relevant. Using your logic, you might as well “not vote” because “1 vote out of millions is kind of irrelevant”.

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    There is no reason for removing content like this unless an individual is specifically inciting violence, calling for murder, etc. just like always has been the case. Ridiculous policy and frankly worthy of locking down Reddit again.

    Fuck Reddit. Glad I left that shit hole.

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    It should’ve been obvious by now whose side Reddit is on, but not allowing neutral reporting on Luigi’s own words is a bit too establishment even for them

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    Can’t believe the corporately owned, corruptly managed, and heavily advertisement-based website would have so many rules against talking about bad things happening to rich people. That shit’s crazy. Who would have guessed?

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      They let it run for a full week though… the crack down started yesterday today in lock step with the heavy fake news push.

      The ruling class let us have our fun, now comes the dick.

      This has been the largest scale anti elite shill operation and all grass roots.

      Don’t let up now…

      Single payer or bust

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        The ruling class let us have our fun

        Can’t help but suspect everyone was hiding under their desks until the culprit was apprehended.

        This has been the largest scale anti elite shill operation and all grass roots.

        Its certainly hit a nerve. But if you’re talking about large scale shill operations, we just got through a multi-billion dollar election cycle where the candidates argued over their favorite flavors of boot just above the sounds of the genocidal meat grinder whirring.

        Single payer or bust

        Can’t stop, won’t stop, until the entire for-profit hospital system is publicly owned and operated.

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          But if you’re talking about large scale shill operations, we just got through a multi-billion dollar election cycle where the candidates argued over their favorite flavors of boot just above the sounds of the genocidal meat grinder whirring.

          You are correct but not grass roots

          Can’t stop, won’t stop, until the entire for-profit hospital system is publicly owned and operated.

          Can I get an, amen?!

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          Luigi isn’t the culprit. The cops planted that evidence on him. They won’t let him talk to the press because he didn’t do it.

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        It also refers to a more subversive methodology of the powers at be to suppress information that they don’t agree with and deem harmful to the status quo, i.e. Luigi’s manifesto. It’s a multi layered statement that really is applicable to situations.

        The thing it’s referring to in this instance is the fact that Reddit is not allowing freedom of speech under the guise of whatever reason it says it has and having that decision protected because it is a private company worried about its own interests.

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    The fact that so many social media sites have to restrict this sort of thing just goes to show what most people think about this situation. So satisfying to watch.

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          well damn, did not realize that dead ceos and insurance company owners are now equivalent of “sick kids” within the US power structure.

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          Hold on, let’s test that hypothesis

          Those kids with blood cancer deserved it!

          Now let’s see how many downvotes this comment gets. If it gets heavily downvoted, then all hail our leukemic overlords.

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      This absolutely the right lesson to learn here. Who cares if you can’t discuss it (not literally)? We already know the American people agree. We now need to take the next step to unify the working class and organize so we can coordinate our efforts and exercise actual political power

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    huh

    who would have thought that the front page of the internet could also be one of its many giant prolapsed flapping assholes ?

    not just regrading to this specific issue though

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      Inciting violence is actually illegal, but it’s a huge gray area since they have in the past allowed the Unabomber Manifesto and books like Mein Kampf (although sales of that book does support the victim’s surviving families and education about the holocaust).

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        Inciting violence is perfectly legal. You can go on Reddit or Shitter right now and scream as loudly as you like that Luigi needs to be locked up for the rest of his life. Inciting violence is only illegal when you do it against the rich and powerful. Unlike Hitler and the Unabomber, Muad’dib exclusively targeted the rich and powerful. That’s why his manifesto is illegal and theirs aren’t.

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          Lol, imprisoning a person is the least violent option. It’s the basis for all justice that a person can be kept alive while awaiting trial or reform. Without it, the only method of law enforcement available would be to kill suspects on sight without trial.

          If you love the wild west so much you should try living in undeveloped areas of south america, such as near the rainforests, or in parts of Africa being contested by warlords.

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    So can I post something that’s NOT Mangione’s manifesto and just change a word or two?

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      “To Nintendo, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect the legacy of what you’ve built. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary research, basic plumbing know-how, and a lot of patience. The notebook, if recovered, has some scattered notes and plans that outline the gist of it. My toolkit is pretty locked down because I’ve spent years perfecting my craft in fixing leaks and navigating pipes, so there’s likely not much info there. I do apologize for any disruption or shock caused by my actions, but it had to be done. Frankly, these corporate overlords simply had it coming.

      A reminder: Nintendo has long been a giant in the gaming industry, but for decades, the reality is that they’ve leveraged their power against not only creators but their own loyal fans. The restrictive policies, the aggressive legal tactics, the artificial scarcity—all these tactics are designed to extract immense profits while stifling innovation and community-driven creativity. It has grown and grown, but as the freedom for creators? No, the reality is, this company has simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to exploit their position because fans and consumers have allowed them to get away with it.

      Obviously, the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly, I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have highlighted Nintendo’s tactics—shutting down fan projects, ceasing the production of beloved games without explanation—decades ago, and yet the problems persist. This is no longer an issue of awareness; it is a question of unchecked power. Evidently, I am the first to challenge it with such brutal honesty.”

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    Why do people still use reddit? why do people still use twitter? why are people using bluesky thinking it’ll be different??

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      It’s the network effect. It’s always the network effect.

      Your current platform enshittified. Where do you go? Well, the majority of people are going to Bluesky, and it’s familiar in terms of UI, so you go there. Sure, you could convince someone like that to try something like Mastodon, but Mastodon is comparably much smaller than Bluesky, so its intrinsic value to people is substantially lower, not to mention the fact that without an algorithm, most of these users have no clue how to curate a feed, since every platform has an algorithm now. A lot of these people will have never used an algorithm-less platform in their entire life.

      The same goes for Reddit vs. Lemmy. Reddit has much more users than Lemmy, more niche communities, higher engagement, etc. Why move somewhere that’s identical in function if it’s smaller? Your current platform works well enough.

      I think it’s easy to underestimate how much censorship and enshittification people are willing to put up with. People will put up with a lot before they switch platforms. Reddit not letting people publish a person’s manifesto isn’t gonna convince many people to abandon their entire accounts and communities and to switch to Lemmy.

      It literally took Twitter being rebranded into oblivion, and turned into an explicit safe haven for fascists and far-right freaks, with an algorithm deboosting non paid-for content multiple times over before people really started flocking out in large numbers.

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        Coming to Lemmy means losing some of the really well supported niche communities from Reddit of old and that was the biggest hit of leaving, but the site being such cancer now I wonder how well they are doing anyway.

        Lemmy, once you’ve blocked 90% of the weird tankies, really does feel like Reddit from 10+ years ago in the comments. It’s just a shame due to its current small size how single minded the general feed often feels. Hopefully that improves

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          It doesn’t have anywhere near enough of the weird transformation porn I like to be Reddit from 10 years ago

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              Drawn images of things like chicks having their booba get bigger because of magic or dudes turning into anthropomorphic horses… Stuff like that

              And that’s just the tamer stuff.

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          I’m curious, what do you mean when you say “tankie”? It’s a word that’s used to mean so many different things these days

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        One issue with alternative smaller platforms can also be them becoming cesspools of users banned from the big platform. The first couple of Reddit alternatives quickly collected the racists and jailbait porn.

        A viable alternative platform needs more than extremist niches.

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          Too true. The first lemmy instance I signed up for shut itself down without warning within a week of me signing up because they’d accidentally federated with a CP instance and their country’s government could have ended up putting the instance’s owner in jail for it.

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        A lot of these people will have never used an algorithm-less platform in their entire life.

        Drag can confirm, drag has never used a social media without algorithms. Unless talking through two cans and a string counts.

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      The president can only pardon someone for federal crimes. Isn’t murdering someone also a state crime?

      Then he can’t be pardoned