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    Why do people still use reddit? why do people still use twitter? why are people using bluesky thinking it’ll be different??

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      It’s the network effect. It’s always the network effect.

      Your current platform enshittified. Where do you go? Well, the majority of people are going to Bluesky, and it’s familiar in terms of UI, so you go there. Sure, you could convince someone like that to try something like Mastodon, but Mastodon is comparably much smaller than Bluesky, so its intrinsic value to people is substantially lower, not to mention the fact that without an algorithm, most of these users have no clue how to curate a feed, since every platform has an algorithm now. A lot of these people will have never used an algorithm-less platform in their entire life.

      The same goes for Reddit vs. Lemmy. Reddit has much more users than Lemmy, more niche communities, higher engagement, etc. Why move somewhere that’s identical in function if it’s smaller? Your current platform works well enough.

      I think it’s easy to underestimate how much censorship and enshittification people are willing to put up with. People will put up with a lot before they switch platforms. Reddit not letting people publish a person’s manifesto isn’t gonna convince many people to abandon their entire accounts and communities and to switch to Lemmy.

      It literally took Twitter being rebranded into oblivion, and turned into an explicit safe haven for fascists and far-right freaks, with an algorithm deboosting non paid-for content multiple times over before people really started flocking out in large numbers.

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        Coming to Lemmy means losing some of the really well supported niche communities from Reddit of old and that was the biggest hit of leaving, but the site being such cancer now I wonder how well they are doing anyway.

        Lemmy, once you’ve blocked 90% of the weird tankies, really does feel like Reddit from 10+ years ago in the comments. It’s just a shame due to its current small size how single minded the general feed often feels. Hopefully that improves

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          It doesn’t have anywhere near enough of the weird transformation porn I like to be Reddit from 10 years ago

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        Until some other fuckwit buys it out (my pessimism says they’ll never get around to making it truly federated).

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    Well shucks, guys, we sure do hope y’all will understand, but any discussion of current events will be looked upon as a direct affront on our corporate overlords and their kin, and golly gee, we’d feel just plum awful if our beloved faceless and soulless owners found a reason to be cross with us! So, we know you’ll be just as soft and unquestioningly compliant as we have made up our minds to be, and that y’all will keep your dang ol’ gazes pointed at the floor and your yaps shut, and just do as you’re told, a-hyuck! Otherwise, our precious r/popculturechat might catch a whoopin’ from them powers that be, and well-shut-my-mouth, we just absolutely, positively, could not ever fucking have THAT. EVER. Could we?

    Delete your Reddit account.

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    Suppression of the suspect’s voice really is misinformation on the part of states and corporations, albeit for different reasons.

    Relevant laws and policies are employed in order to deliberately withhold public information about motive. They don’t want people placing these incidents this within a broader context. There couldn’t possibly be a belief set behind the behaviour; the perp didn’t have any ideas about how the world works, or who and what caused their circumstances. Oh no.

    Why did the shooter go out and shoot people is a completely legitimate question. More than that, it will never be an illegitimate question, no matter how much autistic screeching authorities do. Learning is never wrong, and that includes the publishing and reading of a criminal suspect’s thoughts.

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    I was just about to ask why the fuck anyone would give a shit about what happens over on reddit, then I noticed the sub. Let that shit hole die and crumble into obscurity already. We moved to our own place for a reason. Fuck ‘em feed ‘em fish heads.

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    On one hand, Aaron Swartz must be spinning like a rotisserie chicken in his grave.

    On the other hand, Reddit banned content glorifying violence years ago, and that’s exactly what Luigi’s manifesto is encouraging…

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    “we have no choice but to follow Reddits guidelines”

    There’s another choice, but that would require you to look past reddit.

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      You plant shit seeds, you get shit weeds. I hate the fact that Reddit has grown since I bailed over for API changes. It hurts my soul knowing I did the right thing and bailed but the vast majority of people who were pissed off at Reddit ended up back on the platform.

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            !lemmyworld

            We have previously asked moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification when this was suggested in context of murder or other violent crimes. Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.

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          Not true - we’re just not allowed to discuss jury nullification in the context of encouraging someone to commit a violent felony which includes the promise of absolution through jury nullification.

          Or something, idk. It was kinda weird.

          Jury nullification as two English words that can be spoken one after the other, however, is perfectly allowable.

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      Not that the mods are aware, but if Reddit disappeared tomorrow, I (sadly) suspect most users would go to Twitter or various Discords.

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        Discord I can see but someone who isn’t on twitter in 2024 would look for an alternative to Reddit there…? I don’t see the logic.

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          I’ve thought about it as some of my niche interests have dried up on Reddit and apparently only live on Twitter now.

          And maybe Discord. It’s hard to tell because it’s closed, but I see hints of discussion spilling out into GH issues or whatever.

          I despise both for different reasons, but where else am OlI gonna go if I actually want to talk with the community?

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            Blue Sky, mastodon, lemmy, maybe threads. Hell, HN if they’re programmers.

            I don’t like threads but I’d say it’s more likely than shitter

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    we have no choice

    You are working for free moderating an obviously heavily censored shithole. You have several choices, starting with deleting your account.

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      Reddit has come forth saying they will not tolerate mods that try to destroy communities like it happened before. If a mod deleted their account, someone else will take their place. If a mod deleted a popular subreddit, Reddit will restore it and ban the mod. Deleting their account does literally nothing.

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        Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.

        Which I know will never happen, but that’s what it’ll take.

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          Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.

          The thing any sub with big following has mods that don’t mod for free.

          The narrative steering is not a free service.

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        Deleting their account does literally nothing.

        bullshit excuse. Deleting their account removes them from the equation, makes a statement that they are not enablers of the corporate shithole.

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          Eh. Sure. But ultimately makes no difference in the matter. You can’t make a statement when you’re literally irrelevant.

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            Speak for yourself. Speaking up against what one perceives as wrong and distancing themselves from it is absolutely relevant. Using your logic, you might as well “not vote” because “1 vote out of millions is kind of irrelevant”.

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    There is no reason for removing content like this unless an individual is specifically inciting violence, calling for murder, etc. just like always has been the case. Ridiculous policy and frankly worthy of locking down Reddit again.

    Fuck Reddit. Glad I left that shit hole.