There is a reason for USB-C extensions not to be part of the standard. They can be bothersome in the best case and dangerous in the worst.
There is a reason for USB-C extensions not to be part of the standard. They can be bothersome in the best case and dangerous in the worst.
Anybody care to sum this up for people who can’t watch videos?
So a standard cable needs to be chipped to show its rating to the device, its not that the device can pull what it wants or can get, but the cable itself tells it what it can supply. Extension cables can’t do that, because it doesn’t know what it’s plugged into, and that would be if they even bothered to put a chip in. They instead piggy back off the chip for the main cable. The problem comes when you you have a 240 watt cable hooked up to a cheap 120 watt cable, with the device being told it can push 240, and starts to super heat the extension cable
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Pretty much this, thanks for the summary
Well I’m glad I know that now.
Interesting, I’d never trust any USB cable to push anywhere near 100 watts anyway haha good god, the most I ever do is maybe 20w at 5v.
I’ll keep that in mind when buying cables in the future though this is very useful info!
As a point of reference, Lenovo Thinkpad’s have something of a cult following for their reliability and versatility.
My T490s has a USB-C power supply which provides 45w (20v at 2.25a).
The thing is, when docked it’s not only pulling power through that cable, but also network, USB devices, and providing video for 2x monitors in 1920x1080. It’s kind of astonishing to me how much can be crammed in to one little connector. That said, it’s frustrating trying to find a usb cable that works reliably, because as you’d imagine not all USB-C cables support the same specs.
Is the dock USB-C or Thunderbolt?
It’s USB-C.
If you buy a Steam Deck, or the Lenovo laptop I have for work, the only charging options you have are USB C. Their standard chargers put out at least
6045 W, and they aren’t particularly special. In fact, I’m pretty sure 20 W at 5 V won’t be enough to supply these while in use, so you will either be using battery with long charge times in between, using them with battery-assisted power for longer use times until you hit those long charge times, or using the6045 W or more at whatever voltage the chargers provide.The Steam Deck charger is 45W.
While this is handy to know, it doesn’t negate my point.
IIRC the one that came with my OLED model is 65WIt appears I did not remember correctly
I’m looking at the one for my OLED deck right now and it’s labelled as 45W (20V 2.25A).
My laptop can do 240W over USB-C, I’m just waiting for a charger that can do it with a modular cable
It has a 240w charger but have you checked to see that it’s using all 240w?
Most laptops use (up to) 120w.
It can use almost all of it using the GPU
What’s the make and model of the laptop?
Framework 16
Site says the power adapter is 180w
https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---180w-power-adapter
Going to take a wild guess and say the same reason you shouldn’t chain extension cords. USB can carry over 200w these days.
what if I don’t know that either
It all depends on current draw vs wire size over distance.
Yeah, I think in this case there’s a lot more tiny conductors sharing what can add up to pretty high current loads on PD connections. Adding extra connectors adding resistance to low (5-20v) voltage high current connections is adding an extra failure point and increasing resistance on the whole cable run.
Not inherently unsafe, but just not a good idea to promote because you know someone will try to run a 200w charging cable for 30m with like 5 connected cables.
I would hope that a device capable of pulling 200w from USB would be intelligent enough to detect the excessive voltage drop and error out or reduce the current.
Extensions aren’t part of the official spec, so they aren’t actually certified as proper USB-C.
Same risks as any other janky no-name gear you see online, even if it SAYS it’s rated for a specific throughput or power rating, that may not be the case.
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This is what AI says about this video:
As always AI doesn’t quite get it. One of the main points is that it could catch on fire and burn down your house. Plus you’ll run into other problems as well. You’re not supposed to buy extensions for USB. Buy a longer cable instead.
I need the super duper reliable video summary LLM I was promised. Or else!
I even bought my pitchfork for it, see? ----₤ What? It was on sale.
Idk man. If you’re writing wrong stuff, people will call you out here on Lemmy. Doesn’t really matter who you are. And the issue was someone wanting that info as text.
Jokes on you buddy. Most people can’t afford houses these days.
But yeah, if you don’t know what exactly what you’re doing, err on the side of caution
You’re a bold one. Lemmy hates videos and AI both.
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I asked the AI if it was wrong or you were wrong. It said you were wrong.
Who am I to believe?
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I’m sick of stuff that should be ~2 paragraphs of text being a video. I do not want to watch a person or hear a narrator, I interpret written information much more effectively, and being text I can retain significant portions of the document as necessary.
Strangers passing in the street
By chance two separate glances meet
And I am you and what I see is me
You know, you don’t have to watch it. You can find the information elsewhere in text format. But I guess we all need to conform to your preferences.
It’s nice that you’re so ready to delegate to my natural authority, but unnecessary.
Well I prefer the video. So make sure you watch it. Give a like as well.
The AI got most of it vaguely right, but unsurprisingly a lot seems to go above its head. Kinda like reading a shitty tech journalist writing about something they don’t understand at all.