• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        “You say you wish you could cure heart disease, yet you cheer it on when it kills Henry Kissinger. Curious.”

        • Richard@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          No, ACAB is not a reasonable worldview in the first place. It’s very ignorant and intolerant. A society needs police, and most policepeople are good and sincere human beings.

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            8 days ago

            Hey Dick, can I call you Dick? So, Dick, the problem people have with the police is summed up like this: We are tired of the jackboots not being accountable for their crimes against humanity.

            That clear enough for you Dick?

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              8 days ago

              You deescalate just as effectively as most police. I’m sure your addition to the discourse will help to bring people towards your viewpoint.

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                8 days ago

                Edit: my previous comment wasn’t de-escalation, it was bringing them up to speed in a way that would grab their attention. Seems like it ruffled your feathers as well.

                GOOD.

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            8 days ago

            The point of ACAB is to claim that ALL police are bastards because they all allow some to be as bad as they are. Everyone is aware there are good people.

            They are in a position of power and thus should be capable using that power for self governance. Except, they don’t. How often does a cop blatantly break the law and murder a civilian with no repercussions? If they are going to investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing and never improve, then ACAB.

          • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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            8 days ago

            You have a fundamental misunderstanding.

            The philosophy behind ACAB is that the American police system and its proponents abuse the system and work to keep each other from facing consequences. “Good cops” may enter the force, but they don’t last long, because those who don’t play along and look the other way eventually get ousted, whereas those they tattled on get rehired at a different station.

            The idea isn’t that literally all cops ever will always be bastards. It’s that (under the current system) all cops are bastards.

      • otp@sh.itjust.works
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        8 days ago

        I’m not sure why the downvotes. The meme could literally have two buttons that say “ACAB” and “Justice is served” and it’d have the same effect.

        The story is ironic. That’s why the meme works. There can be conflicted feelings all around.

          • otp@sh.itjust.works
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            8 days ago

            Ironic doesn’t mean mutually exclusive.

            Some versions of the meme have a third panel with the superhero guy pushing both buttons.

      • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Not really. We all still recognize that a police officer murdering someone is fundamentally bad.

        Just because people are glad that a violent, brainwashed magat died bleeding in the street doesn’t mean they think it’s okay that the system allowed for it.

        Are you familiar with “even a broken clock is right once a day”?

        Lol.

      • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        8 days ago

        Ah, good old “both sides” argument. Half the reason we are in this mess.

        I’ve no love lost for cops, but I also have no sympathy left in me while I wonder if I’m going to be able to keep my job, access healthcare, and generally exist as myself in society without someone decided to attack me. Fuck him, fuck the cop. There are no innocents in this story.

        So I’m going to take some catharsis in that one of the people who would likely have murdered me or anyone like me in the future is gone.