Warning: Elon Musk now has Huffman bending the knee. Whitepeopletwitter, iselondeadyet and loads of other Elon critical subs have been banned or suspended.

Just a warning, Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    276·
    17 days ago

    Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised.

    I think that happened a long time ago

      • Paradox@lemdro.idEnglish
        21·
        17 days ago

        Back before they went “independent,” kind of. When Sears sent legal threats to take down a post exploiting an xss bug to make a joke about grilling babies, reddit had a big public discussion on it, and ultimately left the post up

    • luce [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      2·
      16 days ago

      The simple fact that there is an unnecessary amount of control given to a single person over the information and communication you share and consume automatically makes the environment this person controls an unsafe environment for free speech. Yes, there should be moderation, but it should by moderation by the community, not the person on the top of the unnecessary hierarchy. Centralized social media only serves its owners, it exists for no other reason.

  • Allonzee@lemmy.world
    218·
    17 days ago

    Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised.

    That ship sailed years ago.

  • Bonifratz@lemm.ee
    164·
    17 days ago

    Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech

    Friendly reminder of when spez, many years ago, literally just changed a user’s comment, and then went on to not be immediately fired over this insane breach of everything to do with customer relations.

      • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        101·
        17 days ago

        Spez is a piece of shit, but wasn’t that a joke? Like other mods added him as a mod?

        • sploosh@lemmy.world
          14·
          16 days ago

          Excellent point. I’m sure the guy who edited user comments couldn’t have un-modded himself at any given point.

          • Chozo@fedia.io
            6·
            16 days ago

            That was not always the case, and was only set up that way after the CNN expose. Fuck Spez left, right, and up the middle, but he only was only listed as a mod on /r/jailbait at a time when you could freely add anybody as a mod to your subreddit.

        • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world
          2·
          16 days ago

          At the time you could add someone as a mod without their say so. and apparantly thats what happened with Spez.

          Doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t instantly remove himself but left it there for years.

        • andros_rex@lemmy.world
          1·
          16 days ago

          Wouldn’t that mean that he was likely sent CSAM - and possibly didn’t report it?

          That would indicate that there would be no plausible deniability about the trading rings being run by the mods and users.

          Reddit would not have removed r/jailbait if it hadn’t made CNN. R/picsofdeadkids was up for long after that.

          • Chozo@fedia.io
            2·
            16 days ago

            R/picsofdeadkids was up for long after that.

            Not for much longer. Gawker doxxed Violentacrez shortly after, and I believe he shut down all his subs when that happened.

  • Majorllama@lemmy.world
    816·
    17 days ago

    Just a warning, Reddit is no longer a safe place for free speech, it is compromised

    Lol.

    Lmao even.

    Reddit has never been a safe place for free speech.

  • GRIMMnM@lemmy.world
    56·
    16 days ago

    A reddit thread about this is what actually led me here. Reddit has been on my shit list for a while, it’s cool this place exists.

    • samus12345@lemm.eeEnglish
      13·
      16 days ago

      Non-corporate owned media is going to be the only way to escape the continued enshittification of the internet.

    • MintyAnt@lemmy.world
      10·
      16 days ago

      Welcome! Bring your content, enjoy the friendly people :)

      And form a positive opinion on Linux man. Just any opinion. They’ll slaughter you without one it’s rough out there

    • aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
      2·
      16 days ago

      We should be going back on there and proselytizing (and on this end, welcoming new users with h links to documentation etc.) btw if you’re new I recommend checking out the various mobile clients. I personally use lemmy sync because of muscle memory from years of using it on reddit, but there’s a number of open source ones too.

      • GRIMMnM@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 days ago

        I agree. I do worry about the barrier to entry for some people. I know it gets brought up a lot here but I think it’s a valid criticism.

        Looking into apps was actually the first thing I did after making an account!

        I used Sync for a few minutes, but then settled on Voyager because they don’t collect any data.

        Voyager is very nice btw.

  • Syltti@lemmy.world
    51·
    16 days ago

    Huffman isn’t bending the knee. He’s been deep throating Musk for quite a while. Even before the whole API thing, it was known the he saw Musk as a great role model.

    • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
      26·
      16 days ago

      Yeah, Reddit hasn’t been safe in a long time. If people are only just now realizing that, it’s because they’ve been extremely sheltered from… Well… Gestures vaguely at everything

      • TheTurner@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        16 days ago

        You are correct. I didn’t realize how shit it was until I focused on being more security minded. I ditched almost all centralized social media. I’m working to get rid of Facebook and hopefully google next. That’s going to be hard .

  • Clbull@lemmy.world
    48·
    16 days ago

    I’m not even remotely surprised. Anybody who has been following the history of Reddit will know that their senior management are spineless and will change their stance at a whim when it either hurts their public image or it no longer becomes viable from a business perspective.

    We’re forgetting that this is the same site that allowed jailbait, creepshots, racial hatred, right wing propaganda, rampant misogyny, gore videos, terrorist propaganda (if anyone remembers ISIL) and other disgusting content to proliferate until various scandals forced their hand. Spez in particular is a massive snake that will throw people under the bus and lie through his teeth if it benefits him.

    But then again, with a government as volatile as this, maybe you don’t want to piss of Trump or Musk…

    • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
      42·
      16 days ago

      Jihadin Action wasn’t ISIL/ISIS/DAESH propaganda. They spread other propaganda too!

      The real issue was almost nothing you list was illegal at the time except potentially creepshots as odds are some had to be kids (IDK not my bag- kids or creep stuff). Whereas, specific calls to targeted violence against specific people is an actual crime in the country where reddit is headquartered. I don’t like what they did but it makes sense.

      People should get off of reddit because of reasons other than this

      • Clbull@lemmy.world
        5·
        16 days ago

        I’m referring specifically to the uncut ISIL execution videos that used to be all over r/watchpeopledie years ago.

        • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
          3·
          16 days ago

          Gotcha, Jihad in action was press releases from Islamic militant groups about their actions so every bombing, murder, raid etc that anyone announced on twitter was there. It was a huge collection of propaganda.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
    422·
    17 days ago

    Sorry to post a reddit thread, but supposedly this was because of death threats to Elon bootlickers. https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1ihq6ht/whats_going_on_with_whitepeopletwitter_that_got/

    Which is ironic because Elon notoriously promoted project veritas literally catfishing his own employees at Twitter, and also brought back accounts like libsoftiktok that existed to target private individuals. But to be fair to Spez, maybe he would ban those things too.

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      341·
      16 days ago

      Spez lied about a phone call with one of the third party app devs back in 2023. He’s not fair with us, don’t be fair with him.

      • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        16 days ago

        Yup. Dude lied to the 3rd party app dev, affecting his livelihood, and the 3rd party app dev showed up on Reddit with receipts proving it.

        Spez is fucking trash.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
      133·
      16 days ago

      But to be fair to Spez, maybe he would ban those things too.

      The only consistent rule for the past decade or so at reddit has been “don’t sass the nazis.”

      • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        16 days ago

        My 13 year old Reddit account with 250k comment karma was permabanned without warning for saying “It’s OK to punch Nazis”.

        Reddit is, and has always been, run by Nazi sympathizers.

    • Internetexplorer@lemmy.world
      32·
      16 days ago

      How is advocating violence any better than being fascist? I don’t get it. It’s weird there’s this flood of violent threats and people treat it like it’s okay. But it’s not, it’s not any better than fascists threatening violence.

    • straightjorkin@lemmy.world
      1·
      16 days ago

      In November he straight up posted names of federal employees that he decided he didn’t like. But now doing the same thing to his little rat fucks has him calling it ‘illegal’

  • index@sh.itjust.works
    381·
    16 days ago

    When people come here from reddit remember to highlight them on decentralization and open source software. People need to understand why certain platforms and services are better not simply switch side.

      • fossilesque@mander.xyzEnglish
        9·
        16 days ago

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