Basically, It would be nice to point out what those platforms are & what are their “Killer Features”

For anyone who wants a quick glance at which platform might be suitable

  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
    7·
    5 months ago
    • Lemmy pros: Fast, mature, everyone knows it
    • Lemmy cons: Shouty communists, atrocious mod tools
    • Mbin pros: Follow Mastodon people
    • Mbin cons: (1) Ugly (2) Awkward (3) What the fuck is “Magazines”
    • Piefed pros: Python, some semblance of responsiveness to what features people actually want in it
    • Piefed cons: What the fuck is a Piefed

    (all is satire, I love you guys)

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      I can’t emphasize enough how bad Lemmy’s moderation tools are. It’s not just that they’re abysmally anemic (including that you can’t perform moderator actions on someone in your community without a comment of theirs to click the context menu on? what??). It’s not just that reports don’t synchronize correctly across instances (i.e. if you want to moderate a community on another instance, you’re at a severe disadvantage). It’s that they’re wildly fragmented, presented just all over the place like some kind of scavenger hunt.

      • As I said previously, the context menu of a comment is the only way you can ban and unban users (except that you actually can ban them if you use the API directly).
      • Moderation has zero hierarchy, so 1) any moderator if they want to can perform a Night of the Long Knives and become the sole moderator (fine for now when admins can quickly intervene, but impossibly stupid if Lemmy ever became bigger), and 2) every moderator has access to all of the tools (including appointing other mods).
      • You can’t view a list of banned users and unban them from there; this gets back into point 1 where you need to dig up the last comment on your community (not easily if you removed it) to unban them.
      • On Voyager (third-party mobile app), I have more tools than I do on desktop, which indicates to me that the tools are there in the API but just aren’t exposed on desktop for some god-forsaken reason.
      • I literally can’t even view a per-community modlog on desktop. I have to go out and find the Lemmy.World modlog (usually from a search engine) and then filter by action and pray that it was recent enough that I can find it in the rest of the heap.
      • Oh, but don’t worry. There’s a third-party tool for viewing the modlog, which is just ??? What the fuck?? How is this in some random tool you have to go searching for instead of in Lemmy proper? And even then, this tool has its flaws.

      Edit: obviously no automod either, although I know that’s a much larger undertaking than any of the things I’ve listed thus far.

      • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        On Voyager (third-party mobile app), I have more tools than I do on desktop, which indicates to me that the tools are there in the API but just aren’t exposed on desktop for some god-forsaken reason.

        Apollo was also better at moderating Reddit than whatever Reddit could put out so you could say Voyager goes above and beyond at cloning Apollo.

    • MudMan@fedia.io
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      5 months ago

      Disagree hard with ugly and awkward. It being less of that han Lemmy is the reason I use it in the first place.

      If anything, I’d swap the pros and cons around, because every time I accidentally respond to a Masto post over here and half the functionality is missing I have a few seconds of confused panic before I realize what’s going on and drop that conversation altogether.

  • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devEnglish
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    5 months ago

    If I am being honest, Mbin/Kbin’s concept is much better than Lemmy. I like how you can microblog and just use it like a normal forum, which means you can interact with even more people since microblogs (from Mastodon, for example) don’t really federate with Lemmy. I’d like to use Mbin, but there is no real useful android app for it yet (yes I know Interstellar exists, but it isn’t very featureful yet).

  • Pamasich@kbin.earth
    1·
    5 months ago

    One thing I haven’t seen mentioned yet is that Mbin supports custom magazine/community CSS like Old Reddit did. Don’t think it’s federated currently though, so it’s local only. There’s also the ability to follow users and boost (retweet) content, which Lemmy lacks.

    Judging by recent posts by Piefed’s creator, they seem to be planning to add end-to-end encryption and ephemeral content.

  • classic@fedia.io
    0·
    5 months ago

    Is piefed any of three listed on their site? Is it like mbin where fedia.io is one execution of it? Or is everyone here speaking of piefed.social, specifically?