My beef with Lemmy:
- It’s weighted towards politics
- Not a lot of niche sub critical mass yet (though this is not its fault at all)
- But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
Lemmy Leftists feel like that old Emo Philips joke at times.
Apparently anyone not wanting to live in a grey soviet tower block and have all their worldly possessions be redistributed by the state is a “fucking Lib”
People who call themselves “leftists” and hate “liberals” are almost always Stalinists or Communists. “Left” is actually a word that covers an entire spectrum of left of center: liberals, ultraliberals, and radical.
The irony is that the Stalinists are using a misleading inclusive word “leftist”, but historically Stalin and Lenin considered all the other leftist parties in Russia to be their main enemy, not people on the right. Members of these 2 leftist parties were their very first victims. All of them were killed or sent to the Gulag. And then later Stalin made an alliance with Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Revolutionary_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensheviks <— this party was originally the very same party as the Bolsheviks and was the majority faction.
For the moment, I just don’t engage in political discussion on Lemmy. It is way to extreme for me in general. It makes sense tho that those who don’t feel their opinions fit anywhere else (or get them banned etc.) gather in a place that allows for freer discussion, which I think is a good thing really.
And also just posting about niche music makes me happier than getting angry online so… That’s been a good motivation.
I don’t have any problems being occasionally politically incorrect on lemmy. Even if you get tons of downvotes, so what?
It’s not about downvotes. It is about me not wanting to spend my free time on something as pointless as arguing politics on the internet. Generally extremely unfulfilling and I feel like I lost out afterwards.
Like I get why people enjoy it but for a lot of people it is mainly a negative experience…
frankly, lemmy is literally only place I have found where you can discuss politics reasonably. I also try to rid myself of any pride about being right about anything and actually look forward to being called out if someone thinks i’m wrong. Then I can take a look at what they say and adjust my own opinions if the other guy makes sense.
Though i dont go to .ml, they seem more interested in witch hunts than making anything better.
in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your “agreeing with everyone else”, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.
in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your “agreeing with everyone else”, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.
The rando-ban problem on reddit is its biggest flaw. I’m afraid to submit anything there. And I generally only comment in small subs.
i did that unbeknownst they were haivng a ban wave last week, and subs upping thier spam removal filters, plus they dont like if you report too much, or report something the MODS dont like, from what ive gathered if a mod responds to your “report of another player” you are mostly getting a warning, or ban from thier subreddit, and this also it constitutes as account-wide violation once you get banned by a mod for reporting someone. and its also corroborated on the “modsupport” sub that they hate having to deal with Report abuse in general.
That’s probably for the best Jamie Oliver - you do have a public persona to consider.
Yeah, but at least I can make a grilled cheese unlike that other dunce Gordon
Lucky you… I managed to get banned once, for not being “left” enough. So I just don’t engage in specific kind of topics anymore.
I’ve gotten banned somewhere for ostensibly malicious ninja editing, can’t even remember the community, but I do remember the topic. I dared clarify some factual thing.
I got banned from the Star Trek Memes sub, or something, for very mild trolling. I don’t even remember what earned it, I think I said I can’t get my head around an animated Star Trek and can’t accept it as canon or something, and then the trolling was just me doubling down on that opinion (which is an actual opinion). People do love their fandoms.
star trek is wierd, theres like 2 types of fans, the old trek and the nutrek crowd, the nutrek crowd is wierd becuase the series that came out since 09 sucks balls.
What about SNW?
i feel like it could be a better series if the actors were given better lines, and dint act like robots and dint try to use current issues that mirrors the plot. i do like prodigy lower decks more. picard is just not good, kinda lazy in the end too.
star trek series, at least the old suck for the first 2 seasons, but it gets better, nutrek just gets worst overtime. snw tries to fix that though, but they shouldnt use the same styles as the other 2.
The SNW characters themselves are interesting though. Like, I can’t remember a single character from what little I watched of Discovery, many of Picard’s new ones were forgettable and so on, but I like all of SNW’s.
And I like the cast.
It needs better episode-to-episode writing, sure.
yea, someone said in a youtube video, they look like plastic dolls with botox trying to talk in snw. they definitely need more emotional expressions, and stop following kurtzman and discovery tropes. Picard couldve been better, if they stopped dropping the last seasons arcs , like with discovery. they needed to develop it further, and using material lifted from memory wiki pages and the books.(borg alliance, rogue changelings, time travelling borg(not related to first contact) should give those book some credit.
But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
I saw people advocating for damaging people’s Teslas and it was fucking stupid. Beyond the fact that many people are not in a position where they can just get rid of a car over political reasons, it is likely many or even the majority of Tesla owners do not vote Republican (conservatives have been much slower to adopt EVs): you’re very likely going to damage vehicles owned by totally innocent people.
I own a non-Tesla EV but either way it would be excessively expensive to switch to another car on a whim, and I sure as hell am not going to deprive my family just because seeing my car’s brand hurts people’s feelings.
but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things!
So what? Do it anyway. Who cares about downvotes? Sounds like discussions can benefit from your input.
I’ve pointed out more than once that the phrase “Palestinian Genocide” is hyperbole.
Agree with the sentiment, I feel like cybertrucks deserve an exemption though, agree or disagree?
If this is your form of protest at least target someone who has materially contributed to this state of affairs, and by that I don’t mean random Republican voters.
Why are you on Reddit, it is vile and absolutely terrible, better stay away.
My account there is only for shilling lemmy.
Lemmy tastes like reddit that I have grown in my backyard garden.
An heirloom Reddit, if you will.
so small and bitter but you just smile through it and say “it’s so good! 😢”?
maybe I don’t know how to grow stuff…You kind of just tipped your hand at your gardening ability. And also that you’ve never had a real tomato.
I argue mostly everyone here never had a real banana. No, the ones in the stores aren’t the original flavor.
Well, the one in the stores are real bananas. They aren’t Gros Michel bananas, but that’s because Gros Michel went extinct before I was born (and I’m not exactly young anymore.) We might lose the Cavendish before I die.
Supposedly the “banana flavor” in candy is closer to a Gros Michel than to a Cavendish.
Also: Gros Michel bananas have slippery peels. Cavendish do not! That’s where the weird trope with no remaining connection to real life comes from.
Lemmy feels like seeing Reddit grow from nothing with the small community and more serious tone.
This time however, it’s ours.
Idk I kind of like Lemmy so far 🤷
I don’t get the hate this place gets. It’s been really interesting watching Lemmy’s growing pains over the last two-ish years and all the changes it has undergone. The whole concept of the Fediverse is fascinating to me and has been a genuine delight to explore.
I blame Tankies. They’re too aggressive with their “liberals this, liberals that” bullshit, which drives a way a lot of people cause that makes Lemmy look like a MAGA-infested shithole to anyone who doesn’t know what a Tankie this.
Hexbear and LemmyGrad’s bullshit almost made me quit Lemmy day one, until I learned how instances work and how to block them. I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off.
I wish Tankies would just stay in their own god damn space, and keep their bootlicking politics to themselves. They’re ruining Lemmy.
Can confirm - I’m new here and when I see pieces of shit who’d be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesn’t make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point I’ll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.
people my grandfather killed in WWII
YSK that it was tankies who killed 80% of the Nazis in ww2
We know, it was a team effort.
There was also that broken Nazi/Soviet pact and all that carving up of other peoples countries though that was supposed to go the other way.
And look, another Nazi plot with the Russians.
The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone. The Soviets were one of the last to sign one, because they had spent the proceeding years trying to form an explicitly anti-Nazi pact with the capitalist nations, only to be rebuffed.
If Chamberlain had listened to Stalin, the war either wouldn’t have happened, or it would have been over much more quickly.
The Nazis had pacts with literally everyone.
Nope. With only with Russia, Axis nations, and a few small countries.
Stalin literally made a pact with Hitler to participate in the imperialist invasion of Poland.
Here’s one example that took place a year before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact
Neville Chamberlain and Édouard Daladier made a pact with Hitler to just give him their former ally, Czechoslovakia.
It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say that the bully countries never understand.
There was also a secret protocol to the pact, which was revealed only after Germany’s defeat in 1945[101] although hints about its provisions had been leaked much earlier, so as to influence Lithuania.[102] According to the protocol, Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and Finland were divided into German and Soviet “spheres of influence”.[101] In the north, Finland, Estonia, and Latvia were assigned to the Soviet sphere.[101] Poland was to be partitioned in the event of its “political rearrangement”: the areas east of the Pisa, Narew, Vistula, and San rivers would go to the Soviet Union, and Germany would occupy the west.[101] Lithuania, which was adjacent to East Prussia, was assigned to the German sphere of influence, but a second secret protocol, agreed to in September 1939, reassigned Lithuania to the Soviet Union.[103] According to the protocol, Lithuania would be granted its historical capital, Vilnius, which was part of Poland during the interwar period. Another clause stipulated that Germany would not interfere with the Soviet Union’s actions towards Bessarabia, which was then part of Romania.[101] As a result, Bessarabia as well as the Northern Bukovina and Hertsa regions were occupied by the Soviets and integrated into the Soviet Union.
It’s the cutting up other peoples countries part without their say
Please tell me what alternative there was for these “cut up countries”. If the USSR hadn’t established military presence in these countries, they’d just have been invaded by the Nazis. Maybe you expect the Soviet Union, after being ignored for a decade of mutual defense negotiations, to selflessly send its people to die for the countries that refused a military alliance? Like literally, what was the alternative here
Everyone except America :)
(Which had segregation and was the inspiration for half of Nazi Germany’s policies)
Everyone except America :)
Tends to happen when there’s war happening in another continent
they already have thier safe spaces on r/consevative, conspiracy, and trueunpopular opinon, but they whine on other subs that th ey are still get censored, or the so-called left is in an echo-chamber ever since trump won. even though those sub is mostly run by russian state owned bot system.
I blame the anti-tankies. Like this is the only site i even see the termed even used and it looks like a weird hysteria for most. The community is already smal so it looks relay wired. Even this whinny attitude of blocking every one on this tiny space give real off vibes.
I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off
Good. The last thing we need is more stormfront brainrot.
Also, quite the ironic comment.
It’s probably Spez with a second hand account
Vile? What’s so vile on Lemmy?
Can someone direct me to the right communities? 😜
[email protected] and [email protected]
These comms document some bad stuff.
Hey this is my first day on Lemmy and my first comment, too! Fun times.
Both of these posts are complaining about their accounts being banned, which happened because they (at least one of them) posted low effort questions and therefore got lots of downvotes and got automatically banned by a system meant to ban bots and trolls. The irony is that reddit has major problems with their automatic moderation which you yourself as an user is completely powerless to controll, e.g. recently when a massive amount of nsfw subreddits were banned for being unmoderated which they later admitted was erroneous.
i doubt it was error on thier part, the subs happened to be the ones about trans and lgbt, and narcissim therapy , and around the time musk complained about whitepeople twitter. why only those and non of the controversial oens.
Honestly I had some really bad experiences here on Lemmy. I So bad, that in fact I contemplated going back to Reddit because it didn’t feel much different. I surely went from recommending my friends to delete Reddit to towards more of a “just quit Reddit altogether but there’s no good alternative”
At least the moderation is very limited
I’ve noticed a rise of Bot Moderators on reddit and their AI is not very good. They pick up on certain words and not context. One banned me for 3 days for harassment but I was defending myself against someone that was being antagonistic against me. My appeal was rejected :(
Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad actually are terrible
Yes, they are. Lemmy as a whole isn’t.
lol, Lemmy is the most benign social media platform i have participated in decades
.ml and hexbear are full of rancid dogshit, on the same level of mental illness as r/conservative.
Average .world conservative when exiting the echo chamber
I don’t know if it’s funnier or sad how many .world people seethe at people they’ve never even federated with
i moved to .world from .ml because of the annoying ass tankies. it’s not what they were saying that annoyed me it was their attitude. they acted like 14 years olds that just discovered atheism and think everyone else on the Internet is Catholic.
but also, the intense defense is Russia and China was pretty dumb. i get hating America. that’s fair and valid, but to do so while pretending that these other imperialistic super powers don’t also suck is pure denialism.
I get down voted from the .ml crowd for informing them their support of Trump, either direct or inadvertent, isn’t going to save Palestine its just going to get trans people killed and this gets me either blocked or banned. These people see an authoritarian and they can’t help but get a boner.
I’m a socialist. But I’m an anti authoritarian first.
“I am a socialist, that’s why my political activity consists on calling people who oppose genocide trump enablers”
If you oppose genocide then you’d do everything you could to prevent as much genocide as possible. Enabling Trump by not voting and encouraging others not to vote is going to get a lot of people killed. It’s going to get people put in concentration camps, deported to counties they’ve never been to and will struggle to survive in, result in the erasure of trans people, get women killed in childbirth, get people killed on the job as workers safety rights diminish, get children killed as child labor laws disappear, expand the power Russia has over Ukraine (a country they have commited genocide on before), and still get Palestinians in Gaza and the west bank murdered. It honestly makes “you” almost as bad as the fascists in my opinion. Maybe everyone who didn’t vote because of Palestine can go vacation in Gaza after Trump has built a few hotels there and see the real true work all those protest votes helped accomplish.
I’m not absolving dems for being involved in the genocide in Gaza. Their support for Zionism is obscene. But a lot more damage is going to be done now that the power is strengthening in the executive branch under trump and it’s extremely privlidged to act like a protest vote was the morally superior option.
But I’m a socialist because I also think that the means of production should be owned by the workers.
Arguing that either China or Russia suck comparably as much as the US as current things stand is crazy. Most criticism of China is made-up anticommunist propaganda, criticism of Russia is often coated in russophobic tropes originating in Nazism and highly chauvinistic in nature (yes, Russia is on a downwards spiral of concerning fascist trends in government, but so is the entire west, literal Sieg Heil in US president inauguration and fascist parties in Germany and Austria).
Westerners focusing their criticism on countries doing a fraction of the evil their own countries do is simple western exceptionalism and nationalism. Neither China nor Russia have anything in their recent history remotely comparable to the genocide in Gaza, the invasion of Iraq, the carpet bombing of Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Korea, the history of coups and support of fascist regimes, and the history of colonialism of the west.
i never said they were as bad as America lol. why do you have to go so far out of your way to defend two of three largest and most antagonistic countries in the world. they all suck, splitting hairs about degrees of evil isn’t worth the time.
don’t be expansionist.
don’t be imperialist.
don’t hate people for how they were born.
don’t antagonize ethnic minorities.
all three countries are failing at more than one of these right now. they all suck.
they really don’t need the help either…
Saying that Russia is on a downward spiral towards fascism is defending it?
My point isn’t that you should be defending Russia or China, my point is that there’s a very disproportionate amount of criticism of Russia/China compared to the US in the west, especially flagrant if we compare how actually harmful each of these is.
hexbear? got a link to that?
Lol. Lemmy feels more like reddit than reddit.
I agree, reddit is so stagnant. I didn’t join in its prime by any means, but the place is so different since 2023. Thats what booting all the competant mods and going public does.
