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The government already lost a case against Threema when they tried to force them to spy on their users. This is a Verordnung which is not a law but has to adhere to existing laws. So it might be challenged once more.
If this goes trough though than it has always been legal and it is just the executive making it an actual thing now.
Ugh. This fight is never ending. I feel like after a while you just get totally burned out of fighting and have to pass it on to others.
That’s what they count on. They only have to get it through once. We have to fight and win every time, as the UK recently found out. Vigilance has to be key, no matter how hard they make it. But I concede it’s tiring as all hell.
That’s what raising a family is about. No matter what you do the world will eventually burn you out, so it’s good to have people to take over whatever it is you’ve built.
This has been going on since the early 1990s. Just keep up the fight.
Awesome. So much for “Swiss privacy” huh? Where the hell do I move from Proton? 😮💨
I switched to tutanota for email and mullvad for VPN as soon as they came out as pro-trump.
Tutonota is German, which is part of the already full on surveilance state.
A fair point, but it’s better than proton or especially gmail and other traditional email providers. Do you have a better alternative to suggest?
I’ll review again. Last time I looked was 3 to 4 years ago.
I’m sticking with Proton for now. If Switzerland ends up being no different than the 5 eyes, I’ll be more intent on finding a replacement.
I self host most of my digital life but I will never host my own email or PW manager for the simple reason that if I screw up either than I could lock myself out of my ENTIRE digital life.
Also, since email is only as private/secure as the weakest user in the conversation, it seems to me like I would get a very minimal privacy gain from doing so, not worth the risk for normal everyday usage IMHO.
If I really need to communicate securely with someone there’s better options out there than email anyways.
@this Email is especially tricky because most large email providers will flag residential mail servers, and hosting on a provider is a separate issue of security and control
Can we just be realistic and understand that most people can’t/won’t do this. Most people do not have the time/technical knowhow to host everything themselves.
Edit: came back to this and wanted to clarify. It would be great if people could self host literally everything but I don’t get any crucial information through emails or really ever besides in person. I am more than willing to pay a reasonable amount to support privacy features but I’m not personally willing to spend 10x that amount in time to do something that will probably not work because I am not an IT person. I do not have to time to learn how to self host 26 different pieces of software that I have been told I need to self host nor do I have the spare computer parts lying around to build a machine to host them. I have looked at self hosting a matrix client because that is the one type of app that I get anything I want to keep private sent to me but my family is already using signal so I’m unconvinced that switching is worth while.
I should have made paragraphs but I forgot to my bad.
I totally agree with your approach to choices. I don’t have the time nor insight into politics to make educated decisions so I just flip a coin every fourth year and is done with it. Yet people berate me for my ignorance?!
There was never swiss privacy - “crypto ag” and Fichenaffäre for the starters
andy yen would probably happily hand over all your data to the us government anyway
- https://proton.me/blog/european-tech-alternatives
- https://proton.me/blog/apple-ends-adp-in-uk
- https://proton.me/blog/big-tech-data-requests-surge
- https://proton.me/blog/trump-controls-nsa-fbi
Just in the last few months. Their position has been always crystal clear on this issue. Please stop spreading misinformation for a personal grudge. Even one person who doesn’t switch from Gmail or Outlook to Proton (the closest privacy a friendly replacement) because of your bs is an unnecessary damage.
im aware of their whitewashing pr.
im also aware they literally posted their right wing nonsense on their official bsky before deleting
- Years of great track record, consistent position over basically a decade, 7 years of 5-6 digits donations to nonprofits aligned with those objectives: “whitewashing PR”.
- 1 tweet about a different topic: “here is their real position on privacy.”
Sorry, no.
