• Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    There is some serious crapitalist hate for organic maps. I never heard of it util is was taken off the play store for a bit. I side loaded it that day.

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      18 days ago

      Organic Maps is not at feature parity with paid options but it is pretty damn good for FOSS. I use it almost daily for driving around city/suburban Australia and it very rarely gives me bad directions - certainly no more than the paid option i previously used (Sygic).

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      17 days ago

      First off, that’s literally what Forgejo is trying to do

      Secondly, git is technically already federated.

      Things are a lot better than you might think. It’s just that people naturally gravitate towards centralized services, because of the network effect.

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    17 days ago

    I love organic maps, sometimes I practice navigation by turning location off and using a compass with the downloaded map on my phone.

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    17 days ago

    why is Organic Street Maps better than the other ones, that claim to be Open Street Maps derived?

    bandwidth is not disposable ya’ll.

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            16 days ago

            Organic Maps is definitely easier to use, especially for new users but OsmAnd is more powerful. I have both and they’re awesome.

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              16 days ago

              I wish there was some way to share the assets since they use the same base data. I use osmand because I find it better for hiking and route planning to send to my watch, but would use organic as well if I I didn’t need to keep two copies of the maps.

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                16 days ago

                Yeah I know what you mean. Map downloads especially can take up a lot of space/take a lot of mobile data to download. I tried to copy them across manually once but it didn’t work.

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                  16 days ago

                  Yeah it seems like they use different “chunks” so I don’t think it would be cross compatible.

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        17 days ago

        that’s enough for me, except are the other ones not good?

        downloading maps for offline – you nuts? how does anyone profit from the clicks?

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            17 days ago

            that is an extra plus feature i always wanted from a “smart” phone - offline maps. i spent money on some of those apps back when it was kicking off and a very few of them were actually helpful, like showing me actual USGS topo maps.

            would not have helped me that much for survival on my Hawaiian big island fuckabout, because even the big island is not big enough to get truly lost. i tried!

            eventually I went downhill on the volcano towards the ocean for a day or two until cell reception and called my girlfriend and told her I hit my head pretty hard and she should come get me.

            still the maps would have been super interesting. also, Red River Gorge, and all the southwestern N. America desert.

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    18 days ago

    So wait.

    GitHub is Microsoft?

    EDIT: Okay, fuck that. I was just getting all set up there but not now.

    I am trying to decide between PyCharm and VS Code for my Python IDE. I was leaning toward VS Code, but they’re Microsoft too, aren’t they?

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      18 days ago

      Going by their Mastodon account, seems they were erroneously detected as “from a US-sanctioned region” and it took too long for said error to be resolved, so they just made the switch.

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        18 days ago

        “US sanctioned region” is russia. The developer team fully consist of russian citizens, some of them are still in russia.

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          Aren’t they now based in Estonia since when the company was established?

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            17 days ago

            They can be de jure in Estonia and de facto wherever they want.

            E.g OnlyOffice claim to be based in baltics too, but the development office is still in Nizhniy Novgorod(russia).

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              De jure is what’s good enough for me. I am not interested in vindicating ordinary Russians for something they couldn’t even vote for.

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    This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can’t use Github, not because “microsoft bad” (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated to block them.

    Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

    Honestly after this post I will avoid Organic maps. More like genocide-complicit maps amirite.

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      17 days ago

      Are you aware of how much open source work comes from Russians? Russians != Russian govt.

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      Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

      I… don’t follow. How does this make the Microsoft, Github, and USA look good? The policy here is absolutely stupid.

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      17 days ago

      Moving off of GitHub is still good, even if you believe their reasoning behind their reasons is incorrect.

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        I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That’s the whole point of sanctions.

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      17 days ago

      The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.

      Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

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        17 days ago

        As a US citizen. YES. FFS, the point of sanctions is to compel a change or deter an action. Americans might pay way more attention when the rest of the world puts us in timeout because of the terrible leadership.

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          17 days ago

          Research has shown it has historically had very little to no impact on policy. What it does do is harm the lowest rungs of society.

          For example a 2019 report on Trump’s Venezeuala sanctions estimate up to 40,000 people died. Mostly poor people who went without healthcare and medicine because the US froze all of the government’s funds and access to credit.

          In my opinion, I’d prefer if we just bombed civilians in the countries we sanction. It’s more honest. It really is a form of low level warfare. Something akin to a medieval raiding party

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        17 days ago

        I mean, it’s probably in their best interest to avoid us. We are a terrible country.

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        but_what_about_.jpg

        Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

        Yes…? Why haven’t other countries sanctioned the US for Gaza genocide? But that’s also not the point at hand.

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          but_what_about_.jpg

          whataboutism isn’t some magical phrase that you can utter every time someone brings up hypocrisy

          if we’re going to support sanctioning civilians based on their countries breaking international law, then we should not have double standards. otherwise it’s very clear to anyone paying attention that this is a geopolitical issue and not a moral one.

          and that’s what this is actually about. the US sanctions on Russia are a geopolitical tool meant to make the Russian re-subjugation of Ukraine more expensive. that’s it. US doesn’t actually care about Ukraine- neither this administration or the last.

          to me, that doesn’t justify banning individuals from participating in OSS projects. anybody that wants to contribute should be able to.

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      17 days ago

      Upvoting for the concise summary of what the article is about (thanks!); not for the opinion expressed (which appears to conflate Russian developers with the actions of the Russian government – something I find problematic at best).

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        Nothing personal against russian FOSS developers. They should be blocked (sanctioned) from contributing until the sanctions are stopped.

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      17 days ago

      Russian bots down voting you.

      This is how sanctions work. Don’t like it? Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.

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        Not a Russian bot. Down voted it because GitHub is still a poor choice to host open source on nowadays. It’s like someone saying “It’s stupid that such and such switched to renewable energy instead of fossil fuels because they believe the world is flat. The world is not flat!” It’s really missing the forest for the trees.

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        17 days ago

        Get your government to stop invading Ukraine.

        How about we get the american government to stop supplying Israel with bombs they drop on Gaza? Oh, I guess that’s too much effort.