From the guy’s own mouth.

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    Some Presidents should stick to declaring only things they have control over.

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        There is only one country that is constantly threatening a nuclear attack. That country is not in NATO.

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          There is only one country that is constantly threatening a nuclear attack. That country is not in NATO.

          The only country in the world with an official “first strike” nuclear policy is the United States.

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            Not arguing there. But this was 80 years ago. You would think that making threats of this nature would be something that you would show restraint considering we have a history.

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              The U.S. is the only country on the planet that has a first-strike policy, i.e., that as a standing matter threatens to use nukes. This is not 80 years ago, this is right now.

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          There is only one country that used nukes against a live target, ever, and they did it twice, to civilian population centers in the middle of active peace negotiations.

          There is only one country with nuclear capabilities deployed in over 80 countries under its direct control. There is only one country that has unilaterally pulled out of every nuclear treaty in history. There is only one country that publishes news articles about and has leadership in press conferences talking about winning nuclear war and about developing mini nukes. There is only one country working to undermine the MAD doctrine. There is only one country that just sent a nuclear-armed submarine to one its vassal states as a show of willingness.

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            ah yes because ww2 was a happy time for all and no other countries did anything compared to that. smart.

            There is only one country that just sent a nuclear-armed submarine to one its vassal states as a show of willingness.

            the russians literally lost so many nuclear subs in non native waters that the cia tried to grab one with a oversized arcade shop claw.

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              No other country in the history of humanity dropped nukes outside of tests. No other country nukes civilians. No other country nukes civilians in a country that was surrendering. There is no way around it.

              I’m not talking about the existence of subs in non-native waters. I’m talking about surfacing a sub and announcing it’s presence in South Korea as a sabre rattle. Russia didn’t surface subs off the coast of Florida, it didn’t surface subs in a port in Mexico. Because Russia isn’t trying to get in a war with the USA. It’s the USA that keeps expanding its military presence every year, believing it has the mandate to establish a command center for each region of the planet, using slogans like “the border is everywhere” to organize it’s border patrol, and expanding the presence of its nuclear capabilities into 80+ countries.

              No, there is no comparison.

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            They dropped a bomb on a nation that was guilty of murdering up to 10m people. They were also not the initial aggressive beligerant. They do not have control with 80 nations, they have a non aggression pact. Yep, there are parts of the US media that is screwed up. That comes with free press. Does Russia have a free press? There is only one country that is looking to test out the mad doctrine, who also sent nuclear weapons to a vassal state: Russia.

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              hitler-detector As always, the good and conscientious liberal is never more than two steps away from trying to justify the nuclear anihilation of two cities full of noncombatants in a country that was already surrendering. Incredible.

              Next they will ignore this and continue to make things up about their state- designated “enemies” to make them sound worse. Sure, we may have lied about every war before this for profit but this time the Badguy Villainman really is Hitler 2.0, we swear! This time we really are on the right side of history, so shut up and support these Nazis!

              God damn, I’ve lived in America all my life and I’m so sick of our bullshit, and I don’t even have to worry about stepping on any of the unexploded freedom we leave everywhere else. And if you live in the UK or something, no you don’t, it’s Damp America, it’s all America.

              This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahadeen fighters of Afghanistan

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                This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahadeen fighters of Afghanistan

                And the brave women trying to get an education there.

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                  If the U.S. actually gave a shit about women’s rights it wouldn’t ally with Saudi Arabia (and a dozen other countries) and wouldn’t have funded and armed fundamentalist Muslims throughout the 70s and 80s.

                  The U.S. view of human rights generally is that they are occasionally a useful rhetorical cudgel for browbeating skeptical liberals into supporting the war du jour.

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                    Cannot argue against that. Much in the same way the EU bought Russian gas and oil after the invasion of Ukraine. Necessity is a burden sometimes.

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                  And the brave women trying to get an education there.

                  Damn, maybe America shouldn’t have funded the fucking Mujahideen of Afghanistan to overthrow the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan who delivered to the women of Afghanistan their right to choose who to marry, where to work, right to education, and political rights.

                  Historically illiterate dipshit

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                    Maybe if Russia/Stalin had not decided to annex half of Europe there would not have been a cold war. These people decided to sleep with the Russians. The enemy of your enemy is your friend.

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          You are mistaken. The US is in NATO. Unless you mean to tell me their 1000 military bases encircling Russia and China are somehow not a provocation?

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            So you would be ok if Turkey says “we only invaded those greek islands because they had greek military bases in them”? I am just wondering, since when having military bases(your own or of allies), in your own sovereign, internationally recognized territory is an acceptable casus belli for you.

            Would you be ok if the US invaded Cuba, if Cuba had russian bases? Is this what you are saying? How something like this justifies invasion?

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                  List of United States military bases


                  Joint bases

                  Australia

                  • Pine Gap – Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap (JDFPG), near Alice Springs, Northern Territory.
                  • Naval Communication Station Harold E. Holt – located on the northwest coast of Australia, 6 kilometres (4 mi) north of the town of Exmouth, Western Australia.
                  • Robertson Barracks – located in Darwin, Northern Territory.
                  • Australian Defence Satellite Communications Station – located near Kojarena 30 km east of Geraldton, Western Australia.
                  • Other U.S. bases in Australia are present and this list does not include ADF bases with U.S. access. The U.S. military has access to all major ADF training areas, northern Australian RAAF airfields, port facilities in Darwin, Fremantle, Stirling naval base in Perth, and the airfield on the Cocos Islands in the Indian Ocean.

                  Iraq

                  • There are approximately 2,500 U.S. service members in Iraq, spread across several facilities in Iraq and other bases in Iraqi Kurdistan, being used as training bases for Iraqi and Kurdish forces as well as launching operations against targets in Syria.
                  • Al-Anbar Governorate
                  • Al Asad Airbase
                  • Camp Habbaniyah
                  • Baghdad Governorate
                  • Camp Victory
                  • Duhok Governorate
                  • Atrush Field
                  • Erbil Governorate
                  • Al-Harir Air Base
                  • Erbil International Airport
                  • Nineveh Governorate
                  • Kariz near Zummar
                  • Saladin Governorate
                  • Balad Air Base

                  Niger

                  • The U.S. operates drone bases from three locations across Niger. These locations are staffed by several hundred U.S. Special Operations Forces in a non-combat role, aiding the Nigerien military with training and surveillance.
                  • Arlit
                  • Nigerien Air Base 201, Agadez
                  • Niamey

                  United States Army

                  Belgium

                  • Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe

                  Bosnia and Herzegovina

                  • NATO Headquarters Sarajevo

                  Bulgaria

                  • Aitos Logistics Center, Burgas Province
                  • Bezmer Air Base, Yambol Province
                  • Graf Ignatievo Air Base, Plovdiv Province
                  • Novo Selo Range, Sliven Province

                  Cameroon

                  • Contingency Location Garoua, Garoua

                  Germany

                  • Bleidorn Housing Area, Ansbach
                  • Dagger Complex, Darmstadt Training Center Griesheim
                  • Edelweiss Lodge and Resort, Garmisch-Partenkirchen
                  • Lucius D. Clay Kaserne (formerly Wiesbaden Army Airfield), Wiesbaden-Erbenheim
                  • Germersheim Army Depot, Germersheim
                  • Grafenwöhr Training Area, Grafenwöhr/Vilseck
                  • Hohenfels Training Area/Joint Multinational Readiness Center, Hohenfels (Upper Palatinate)
                  • Husterhoeh Kaserne, Pirmasens
                  • Kaiserslautern Military Community
                  • Katterbach Kaserne, Ansbach
                  • Kelley Barracks, Stuttgart
                  • Kleber Kaserne, Kaiserslautern Military Community
                  • Lampertheim Training Area, Lampertheim
                  • Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, Landstuhl
                  • McCully Barracks, Wackernheim
                  • Miesau Army Depot, Miesau
                  • Oberdachstetten Storage Area, Ansbach
                  • Panzer Kaserne, Böblingen
                  • Patch Barracks, Stuttgart
                  • Pulaski Barracks, Kaiserslautern
                  • Rhine Ordnance Barracks, Kaiserslautern
                  • Robinson Barracks, Stuttgart
                  • Rose Barracks, Vilseck
                  • Sembach Kaserne, Kaiserslautern
                  • Sheridan Barracks, Garmisch-Partenkirchen
                  • Shipton Kaserne, Ansbach
                  • Smith Barracks, Baumholder
                  • Storck Barracks, Illesheim
                  • Stuttgart Army Airfield, Filderstadt
                  • Mainz-Kastel
                  • USAG Wiesbaden Military Training Area, Mainz, Gonsenheim/Mombach
                  • USAG Wiesbaden Training Area, Mainz Finthen Airport
                  • USAG Wiesbaden Radar Station, Mainz Finthen Airport
                  • Urlas Housing and Shopping Complex, Ansbach

                  Israel

                  • Dimona Radar Facility

                  Italy

                  • Camp Darby, Pisa-Livorno
                  • Caserma Ederle, Vicenza
                  • Caserma Renato Del Din, Vicenza

                  Iraq

                  • Camp Al-Khalis (Rock City FOB)
                  • Camp Al-Khalis (Rock City FOB)
                  • Camp Al Watani (Green Zone)
                  • Camp Anah COP Ocotal
                  • Camp Andaluz (Spanish Camp)
                  • Camp Anderson
                  • Camp Apache
                  • Camp Gunner Main
                  • Camp Arkansas
                  • Camp Arrow
                  • Camp Avalanche
                  • Camp Basilone
                  • Camp Black Jack
                  • Camp Boom
                  • Camp Brassfield Mora
                  • Camp Bristol
                  • Camp Buffalo
                  • Camp Bulldog
                  • Camp Bushmaster
                  • Camp Bushwaker
                  • Camp Buzz
                  • Camp Clairborne
                  • Camp Cobra
                  • Camp Cold Steel
                  • Camp Combat Outpost (Ar Ramadi)
                  • Camp Cooke
                  • Camp Cropper
                  • Camp Dahuk
                  • Camp Daniels (Samarra)
                  • Camp Dakota (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Dracula
                  • Camp Dragoon (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Duke (Najaf)
                  • Camp Eagle (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Eagle III (Najaf)
                  • Camp Eden
                  • Camp Edson (Diwaniyah)
                  • Camp Ellis
                  • Camp Endurance
                  • Camp Fenway
                  • Camp Freedom (Mosul)
                  • Camp Freedom I
                  • Camp Freedom II (Green Zone)
                  • Camp Ganci (Abu Ghraib)
                  • Camp Geiger
                  • Camp Gilligan
                  • Camp Golf
                  • Camp Graceland
                  • Camp Griffin
                  • Camp Hotel (Najaf)
                  • Camp Hurricane Point (Ar Ramadi)
                  • Camp Independence
                  • Camp India
                  • Camp Iron Horse (Sadr City)
                  • Camp Jennings (Al Amarah)
                  • Camp Juliet (Karbala)
                  • Camp Junction City (Ar Ramadi)
                  • Camp Justice
                  • Camp Kalsu
                  • Camp Klecker
                  • Camp Knot
                  • Camp Korean Village
                  • Camp Lancer
                  • Camp Leader (Mosul)
                  • Camp Libeccio
                  • Camp Liberty (Camp Hurriya)
                  • Camp Lima (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Manhattan
                  • Camp Marez (Mosul)
                  • Camp Malboro (Sadr City)
                  • Camp Mejid (Al Asad AB)
                  • Camp Mercury
                  • Camp C.W. Myler (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Nakamura (Nippur)
                  • Camp Normandy (Muqdadiyah)
                  • Camp Outlaw (Green Zone)
                  • Camp Pacemaker
                  • Camp Pacesetter
                  • Camp Paladin
                  • Camp Paliwoda (Balad)
                  • Camp Packhorse
                  • Camp Camp Parsons
                  • Camp Performance (Mosul)
                  • Camp Patriot(Green Zone)
                  • Camp Qayyarah
                  • Camp Raider
                  • Camp Red Knight
                  • Camp Redcatcher
                  • Camp Redemption (Abu Ghraib)
                  • Camp Renegade
                  • Camp Ridgeway (Al Taqaddum)
                  • Camp Ripper (Al Asad)
                  • Camp Roach
                  • Camp Rustamiyah
                  • Camp Shield (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Slayer
                  • Camp Smitty
                  • Camp Snake Pit (Ramadi)
                  • Camp Solidarity (Camp Al-Tadamum)
                  • Camp Speicher
                  • Camp St. Mere (Fallujah)
                  • Camp Steel Dragon (Green Zone)
                  • Camp Steel Falcon
                  • Camp Stone (Sulaymaniyah)
                  • Camp Strike (Mosul)
                  • Camp Striker
                  • Camp Sullivan (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Sustainer
                  • Camp Sycamore
                  • Camp Taji
                  • Camp Taqaddum
                  • Camp Thunder
                  • Camp Top Gun (Mosul)
                  • Camp Trebil
                  • Camp Twin Tower (Topical!)
                  • Camp Ultimo (Baghdad)
                  • Camp Union I (Camp Al-Tawheed Al-Awal)
                  • Camp Union II (Camp Al-Tawheef Al-Thani)
                  • Camp Victory 51 papa (Abu Ghraib)
                  • Camp Vigilant (Abu Ghraib)
                  • Camp Viper
                  • Camp Volunteer
                  • Camp War Horse
                  • Camp Whitehorse
                  • Camp Whitford
                  • Camp Wolf
                  • Camp Wolfpack (Green Zone)
                  • Camp Zadan (Zadan)
                  • Camp Zaytun (Erbil)

                  Japan

                  • Shariki Communication Site
                  • Akasaka Press Center (Hardy Barracks)
                  • Yokohama North Dock
                  • Camp Zama
                  • Sagami General Depot
                  • Sagamihara Housing Area
                  • Kyogamisaki Communication Site
                  • Akizuki Ammunition Depot
                  • Kawakami Ammunition Depot
                  • Hiro Ammunition Depot
                  • Kure Pier No.6
                  • Haigamine Communication Site
                  • Gesaji Communication Site
                  • Torii Communications Station (Torii Station)
                  • Naha Port
                  • Army POL Depots

                  Kosovo

                  • Camp Bondsteel
                  • Film City, Pristina

                  Kuwait

                  • Ali Al Salem Air Base
                  • Ahmad al-Jaber Air Base
                  • Camp Arifjan
                  • Camp Buehring (formerly Camp Udairi)
                  • Camp Patriot (shared with Kuwait Naval Base)
                  • Camp Spearhead (shared with port of Ash Shuaiba)

                  Lithuania

                  • Camp Herkus, Pabradė

                  Poland

                  • Camp Kosciuszko (formerly FOS Poznan)

                  South Korea

                  • Camp Ames
                  • Camp Carroll
                  • Camp Casey
                  • Camp Coiner - northern portion turned over to US Embassy in Dec 2017, southern portion remains open
                  • USAG Daegu
                  • Camp George
                  • Camp Henry
                  • Camp Hovey
                  • USAG Humphreys
                  • Camp Liberty Bell
                  • Camp Long Jon
                  • Camp Mercer, Seoul - 44th Engineering Battalion
                  • Camp Mobile
                  • Camp Walker
                  • USAG Yongsan
                  • K-16 Air Base
                  • Kunsan Pol Terminal Site
                  • Madison Site
                  • Masan Ammunition Depot
                  • Seobingo Compound
                  • Pier #8
                  • Yong Pyong
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                    United States Marine Corps

                    Germany

                    • Camp Panzer Kaserne, Böblingen

                    Japan

                    • Marine Corps Air Station Futenma, Okinawa
                    • Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Yamaguchi Prefecture
                    • Marine Corps Base Camp Smedley D. Butler, Okinawa
                    • Camp Courtney
                    • Camp Fuji, Shizuoka Prefecture
                    • Camp Foster
                    • Camp Hansen
                    • Camp McTureous
                    • Camp Schwab
                    • Ie Jima Auxiliary Airfield
                    • Henoko Ordnance Ammunition Depot
                    • Kin Red Beach Training Area
                    • Kin Blue Beach Training Area
                    • Makiminato Service Area (Camp Kinser)
                    • Camp Kuwae (Camp Lester)
                    • Northern Training Area (Incl. Camp Gonsalves Jungle Warfare Training Center)
                    • Tsuken Jima Training Area

                    South Korea

                    • Camp Mujuk

                    United States Navy

                    Bahamas

                    • Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center

                    Bahrain

                    • Naval Support Activity Bahrain

                    British Indian Ocean Territory

                    • Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia

                    Cuba

                    • Guantanamo Bay Naval Base

                    Djibouti

                    • Camp Lemonnier

                    Greece

                    • Naval Support Activity Souda Bay

                    Iceland

                    • Naval Air Station Keflavík

                    Italy

                    • Naval Support Activity Naples
                    • Naval Air Station Sigonella

                    Japan

                    • Naval Air Facility Atsugi
                    • Misawa Air Base
                    • Naval Forces Japan, Okinawa
                    • United States Fleet Activities Sasebo
                    • United States Fleet Activities Yokosuka
                    • Hachinohe POL Depot
                    • Misawa ATG Range (R130, Draughon Range)
                    • Kisarazu Auxiliary Landing Field
                    • Negishi Dependent Housing Area (Naval Housing Annex Negishi)
                    • Ikego Housing Area and Navy Annex
                    • Azuma Storage Area
                    • Fukaya Communication Site (Naval Transmitter Station Totsuka)
                    • Urago Ammunition Depot
                    • Tsurumi POL Depot
                    • Iwo Jima Communication Site
                    • New Sanno U.S. Forces Center
                    • Sasebo Dry Dock Area
                    • Akasaki POL Depot
                    • Sasebo Ammunition Supply Point
                    • Iorizaki POL Depot
                    • Yokose POL Depot
                    • Harioshima Ammunition Storage Area
                    • Tategami Basin Port Area
                    • Sakibe Navy Annex
                    • Hario Dependent Housing Area (Hario Family Housing Area)
                    • Tengan Pier
                    • Camp Shields
                    • Awase Communications Station
                    • White Beach Area
                    • Kobi Sho Range
                    • Sekibi Sho Range
                    • Oki Daito Jima Range

                    Poland

                    • Naval Support Facility Redzikowo

                    Romania

                    • Naval Support Facility Deveselu

                    Singapore

                    • Singapore Area Coordinator

                    South Korea

                    • Busan Naval Base, Busan, Gyeongnam, Korea
                    • Commander Fleet Activities Chinhae, Changwon, Gyeongnam, Korea

                    United States Air Force

                    Aruba

                    • Queen Beatrix International Airport (Cooperative Security Location of U.S. Southern Command)

                    Curaçao

                    • Hato International Airport (Cooperative Security Location of U.S. Southern Command)

                    Estonia

                    • Ämari Air Base

                    Germany

                    • Ansbach
                    • NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen, Geilenkirchen
                    • Ramstein Air Base
                    • Spangdahlem Air Base
                    • Buchel Air base

                    Honduras

                    • Soto Cano Air Base

                    Italy

                    • Aviano Air Base
                    • Camp Darby (Pisa-Livorno)
                    • Sigonella Naval Air Station

                    Japan

                    • Camp Chitose (Chitose III, Chitose Administration Annex)
                    • Misawa Air Base
                    • Yokota Air Base
                    • Fuchu Communications Station
                    • Tama Service Annex (Tama Hills Recreation Center)
                    • Camp Asaka (South Camp Drake AFN Transmitter Site)
                    • Tokorozawa Communications Station (Tokorozawa Transmitter Site)
                    • Owada Communication Site
                    • Yugi Communication Site
                    • Sofu Communication Site
                    • Itazuke Auxiliary Airfield
                    • Sefurisan Liaison Annex (Seburiyama Communications Station)
                    • Tsushima Communication Site
                    • Okuma Rest Center
                    • Yaedake Communication Site
                    • Kadena Ammunition Storage Area
                    • Kadena Air Base
                    • Tori Shima Range
                    • Idesuna Jima Range
                    • Kume Jima Range

                    Kenya

                    • Camp Simba

                    Kuwait

                    • Ahmad al-Jaber Air Base
                    • Ali Al Salem Air Base

                    Lithuania

                    • Šiauliai Air Base, Siauliai

                    New Zealand

                    • Christchurch Airport - Operation Deep Freeze

                    Netherlands

                    • Volkel Air Base

                    Poland

                    • Łask Air Base

                    Portugal (Azores)

                    • Lajes Air Base

                    Qatar

                    • Al Udeid Air Base

                    Romania

                    • Mihail Kogălniceanu Air Base
                    • Câmpia Turzii Air Base

                    Saudi Arabia

                    • Prince Sultan air base

                    South Korea

                    • Kunsan Air Base
                    • Osan Air Base

                    Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (Cyprus)

                    • RAF Akrotiri

                    Spain

                    • Morón Air Base

                    Turkey

                    • Incirlik Air Base
                    • Izmir air station

                    United Kingdom

                    • RAF Alconbury, Huntingdonshire
                    • RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire
                    • RAF Fairford, Gloucestershire
                    • RAF Lakenheath, Brandon, Suffolk[45]
                    • RAF Mildenhall, Mildenhall, Suffolk
                    • RAF Molesworth, Cambridgeshire

                    United Arab Emirates

                    • Al Dhafra Air Base

                    United States Space Force (lol)

                    Greenland (Denmark)

                    • Pituffik Space Base

                    United States Coast Guard (wtf)

                    Bahrain

                    • Patrol Forces Southwest Asia

                    Cuba

                    • Air station Miami - Navsta Guantanamo Bay

                    Germany

                    • Maritime & International Law - U.S. Africa Command

                    United Kingdom

                    • HMS Support Program - Portsmouth

                    Japan

                    • USCG Activities Far East

                    Netherlands

                    • USCG Activities Europe

                    Saudi Arabia

                    • Saudi Maritime Infrastructure Protection Force

                    Singapore

                    • Activities Far East-Singapore

                    ETA: These are just the ones officially listed on Wikipedia

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              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

              Due to the sensitive and often classified nature of this information, there is no comprehensive list with the exact number or location of all bases, stations and installations. The total number of foreign sites with installations and facilities that are either in active use and service, or that may be activated and operated by American military personnel and allies, is just over 1,000.

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                  Are you being deliberately obtuse? The number of around 1000 US foreign military bases is well collaborated, even by US professors and researchers. The existence of organisations like AFRICOM and US foreign troop deployments to countries like Germany and South Korea is well known. It’s not a matter of belief.

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                    When the argument becomes ridiculous, trolling is allowed. The argument was lost when there was an attempt to accuse the US of threatening with nukes.

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              Naval Facility Okinawa is one of the more controversial. There’s also Fort Magsaysay in the Philippines, along with others in the region. The US really does have China surrounded on multiple fronts.

              The largest American overseas base is Camp Humphreys in South Korea, which comprises of over 500 individual buildings and cost $11 billion.

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          Just because you close your eyes to what is happening in the world, doesn’t mean the rest of us are blind too.

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            my brother in none, if they wanted to use nukes they would have. they know that their equipment is shit and that the us and relevant countries have like 10 different active systems for dealing with the 5 icbms what are actually functional.

            us on the other hand… also china

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              Ofcourse. They dont want to start a nuclear war because their systems are shit… Yeah, I’m sure it’s nice inside the bubble you are living in.

              Lol, chinamongering now.