This is wrong. Even a compromise candidate like Bernie was colluded against, the party will only act in its own interests. It isn’t a democratic party, it’s one fully oriented towards resisting radical change.
Yes the Democratic party is oriented towards resisting change. You act like the people have no power, no say. If you think the votes are rigged please explain how.
Voters do have a say. Republican voters wanted someone more extreme than milqtoast mitt Romney, and they got it in Trump. They wanted republican congresspeople that would support Trump instead of obstruct him like McCain. They got them.
Democratic leadership can make it hard for leftists to win, but they aren’t changing vote totals. If Americans voted for leftists in primaries for mayor and city council there would eventually only be leftists running for Congress and eventually a leftist would win the nominee for president.
In 2016, the Clinton campaign shut down polling favoring Bernie. In 2020, the campaign was swaying towards Bernie, but all of the moderates dropped out and rallied around Biden. The primaries aren’t truly democratic.
Even if a Leftist made it to office, the party would not rally around them. The entire system is designed against change, and the preservation of the interests of Capital.
Really, you’re making the case for third party voting, as technically a third party win is possible, and would allow a Leftist in.
Moving the democratic and Republican parties left has happened more recently than a third party winning national prominence.
Both Democrats and Republicans moved left during the progressive era, 1890’s to 1916. The Democrats stayed there for decades while the Republicans moved right over the course of the new deal. A third party hasn’t gained prominence since the Republican party came on the scene in the 1850’s.
You didn’t connect that to the will of the voters, though. Two important factors:
The US took a “progressive nationalist” stance following World War I, leveraging its income from the inter-ally debts it levied during the war in order to bleed Europe dry for its own gain.
The historic rise of the Soviet Union presented the world with an alternative to Capitalism, and as a consequence many Capitalist states began making concessions to their working class in order to pour some water over the rising revolutionary fire.
In neither case was the progressive shift due to the will of the voters, but the ruling class.
What was important was not whether or not people voted for “progressives” or voted in larger quantities for the DNC. What mattered was growing Communist sympathies and labor organization. The “inputs” that drove the “outputs” were entirely disconnected from the bounds of electoralism, but labor organizing.
That’s why I say there’s no evidence the DNC can be moved left. The progressive movements were only at the behest of Capital, not the workers, because Capital feared for the usurption of its ruling status.
This is wrong. Even a compromise candidate like Bernie was colluded against, the party will only act in its own interests. It isn’t a democratic party, it’s one fully oriented towards resisting radical change.
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Explained in my other reply to you.
Yes the Democratic party is oriented towards resisting change. You act like the people have no power, no say. If you think the votes are rigged please explain how.
Voters do have a say. Republican voters wanted someone more extreme than milqtoast mitt Romney, and they got it in Trump. They wanted republican congresspeople that would support Trump instead of obstruct him like McCain. They got them.
Democratic leadership can make it hard for leftists to win, but they aren’t changing vote totals. If Americans voted for leftists in primaries for mayor and city council there would eventually only be leftists running for Congress and eventually a leftist would win the nominee for president.
Money is a tool, it’s not mind control.
In 2016, the Clinton campaign shut down polling favoring Bernie. In 2020, the campaign was swaying towards Bernie, but all of the moderates dropped out and rallied around Biden. The primaries aren’t truly democratic.
Even if a Leftist made it to office, the party would not rally around them. The entire system is designed against change, and the preservation of the interests of Capital.
Really, you’re making the case for third party voting, as technically a third party win is possible, and would allow a Leftist in.
Moving the Democratic party would be easier than electing a third party. It just doesn’t happen in a year or decade.
I have seen no evidence of that.
Moving the democratic and Republican parties left has happened more recently than a third party winning national prominence.
Both Democrats and Republicans moved left during the progressive era, 1890’s to 1916. The Democrats stayed there for decades while the Republicans moved right over the course of the new deal. A third party hasn’t gained prominence since the Republican party came on the scene in the 1850’s.
You didn’t connect that to the will of the voters, though. Two important factors:
The US took a “progressive nationalist” stance following World War I, leveraging its income from the inter-ally debts it levied during the war in order to bleed Europe dry for its own gain.
The historic rise of the Soviet Union presented the world with an alternative to Capitalism, and as a consequence many Capitalist states began making concessions to their working class in order to pour some water over the rising revolutionary fire.
In neither case was the progressive shift due to the will of the voters, but the ruling class.
You just said the concessions were to head off the growth of revolutionary fire. What is that but responding to the will of voters?
What was important was not whether or not people voted for “progressives” or voted in larger quantities for the DNC. What mattered was growing Communist sympathies and labor organization. The “inputs” that drove the “outputs” were entirely disconnected from the bounds of electoralism, but labor organizing.
That’s why I say there’s no evidence the DNC can be moved left. The progressive movements were only at the behest of Capital, not the workers, because Capital feared for the usurption of its ruling status.
That’s why I vote third party.