• Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
  • Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    If an industry can’t survive without resorting to copyright theft then maybe it’s not a viable business.

    Imagine the business that could exist if only they didn’t have to pay copyright holders. What makes the AI industry any different or more special?

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    If asking for permission is going to kill an industry, then that industry should be killed.

    • Bravo@eviltoast.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      1 day ago

      In principle I agree. The problem is that there are countries which don’t care about respecting law and if you kill AI in the West, all that will happen is the West will get left behind.

    • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      No, it’s not like saying that.

      Please stop trying to use rape as a way to get an emotional response for something unrelated.

  • phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    2 days ago

    Cool, so I’ll get started on building an automated business that sells cheap access to all the music, movies and shows on the streaming services.

    Getting consent for each title would basically kill my business and would be implausible, so I’ll just assume it’s ok.

  • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    I thought copyright and patent laws were supposed to protect the little guy? Looks like as soon as they protect the little guy from big business, they stop mattering.

    It’s almost like, they weren’t there to protect the little guy which is why big businesses never fought back against them.

    I guess the useful idiots were wrong, again. Color me not-surprised.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    2 days ago

    If a business cannot survive without breaking the law, then it is not a business but a criminal organisation.

    • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      Contrary to popular belief among useful idiots, copyright and patent laws are not there to protect the working class.

      If copyright and patent laws actually protected workers, why have we not seen rulers fight back against them until now?

      This should be eye-opening to most of you, but that would involve admitting you were wrong.

      Most people can’t do that.

  • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 days ago

    Honestly not a bad thing, I mean you’re not going to OpenSource your AI so this is a good alternative

  • vane@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    2 days ago

    I have a proposition. Raid them with police and search their computers for stolen data like you would do with your citizens.

  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    oh noes

    Look, these goddamn assholes have got in their head that they have a right to profit.

    NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO PROFIT.

    You have a right to try to create a profit and there are rules to that. You’re gonna lose your billions in investment if you can’t plaigerize content?..fuck you, your loss, and you shoulda fucking known better when the idea was presented to you.

    Assholes

  • Flickerby@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    ·
    3 days ago

    If your industry can’t exist without theft then your industry doesn’t deserve to exist, pretty simple.

    • toastmeister@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      24
      ·
      3 days ago

      Copying isn’t theft, the original still exists. Just like watching pirated movies.

      • Rose@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        29
        ·
        3 days ago

        The AI industry doesn’t want to abolish or reform copyright law, they just want an exception so that they can keep appropriating shit. On the contrary, they’re pretty mad that AI stuff isn’t covered by more copyright.

        AI bros are not on the side of open culture.

      • Flickerby@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        33
        ·
        3 days ago

        If someone pirates a movie for home use its no big deal because yes. If someone pirates a movie and then opens a movie theatre and starts charging people to watch the movie that’s an entirely different matter. AI is a business generating income, not a person skipping out on a $4 rental fee.

      • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        2 days ago

        Copying isn’t theft, the original still exists. Just like watching pirated movies.

        Shit take when the results are used for profit. Most of us that pirate aren’t legally monetizing our stash.

      • Blackmist@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 days ago

        Cool, so I can torrent without a VPN now?

        Oh, only the super rich can benefit. How convenient.

      • Don_alForno@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        3 days ago

        As long as people get punished for pirating media, corporations need to license their shit just as well.