SeeingRed [he/him]

I always find it silly how humanoid robots almost never turn in a way that looks easy. They do a small shuffle and it takes multiple steps to turn 90 degrees.

I guessing that it’s not a trivial problem to solve. Or maybe there are hardware limitations that don’t allow human like movements. Like, maybe the hip and leg sockets are not able to make certain motions. Otherwise, it’s something that could easily be solved through reinforcement learning. Maybe it’s just never been a priority either.

I know that from an economic perspective, having a robot that can do a human task slowly but for less than it takes to hire a human for a proportional amount of time makes sense. And if we want to reduce mundane human working hours under socialism, it makes sense to build these sorts of robots. Especially as their abilities increase (more dexterity, better sensors, better software, etc.). Right now they feel super gimicky, but I can see the potential.

That bit at the end where the one bot charged the other bot was kind of cute.

Im curious how each agent differs, or is trained. Seems they had doctor and nurse agents, as well as patient agents. This would be a good way to start partial implementation. It would allow some tasks to be taken over by the in a hybrid format which could allow an even richer training environment.

I could never see the west doing this in a way that would actually improve the quality of service.

One of the issues with LLM AIs that we’ve seen time and again is that it can be extremely confident and perfectly incorrect. I have no doubt they are doing their best to train the AI with the best data, but I hope they are also working to solve some of the underlying issues with LLMs.

From what I’ve seen, the electric cost is actually only a small component, the building, specialized hardware, maintenance and labour make up the majority of the bill for most vertical farming operations.

Further, it’s a matter of how much energy density you need within a given volume compared to the available roof surface. Most plants don’t need full sun, but you might only be able to supply 2-4 times the roof area as internal grow area (when accounting for efficiency losses and the needs of the plants). You would need to provide the majority of the grow area with LED lights anyway. So it might not be worth the resources/labour costs. Though it might be a good supplemental supply of photons.

The only real use case I can see for vertical farming is providing fresh produce nearer to urban centres, or if there is an acute shortage of land, otherwise passive greenhouses (with supplemental lighting and heating if needed) are generally a better use of resources. Specialized produce is another use case, but it seems that we need a lot more research to make it a viable option at scale.

A question of where the energy comes from is also important, solar panels in a desert/on roof tops is good, but if they replace a farm field it’s pointless. Wind, nuclear, hydro are good options.

I’m definitely curious to see how the field grows within the context of China and socialism more broadly. Many of the constraints in current implementations are only important when the only consideration is profit.

Edit: read the article, they have some really interesting use cases in their facility beyond what I could imagine.

Goodbye Petrodollar, history will not miss you.

It’s a ways to go still, but this is a promising sign.