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    Dean Cain was in one of the 'God’s not Dead" movies. That tells you all you need to know about him.

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    A good movie is going to do well. This is just called marketing! Like the fight between elon and trump it’s all an illusion to grab your attention.

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      An Illegal alien at that. He can’t even claim Birthright Citizenship, if we still followed the Constitution I mean.

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    Wait can someone explain since when is superman not an immigrant? Bro literally fell from the sky or some shit from an alien planet. How the fuck is he not an immigrant? Oh right hes white.

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      Not that it is incorrect to call him an immigrant, but I do think “castaway” and “refugee” fit his situation a little better. Still a xenophobic thing to say he’s not an immigrant. Every single document regarding Clark Kent’s existence is falsified, so he is, by definition, an illegal alien.

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        They actually changed this in the mid-90s (and since changed it back). From 96-09, he was a legal US citizen because his “rocket” was somehow just incubating the embryonic Kal-El and thus he was ACTUALLY born on American soil from the Birthing Matrix.

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          I mean from a lore standpoint thats interesting but for the overall story him being an immigrant works much better.

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    I mean, he may be right that it’ll hurt the box office to polarize the public, but Superman is as much an illegal alien as you can get.

    Come to think of it, what is the story regarding his birth certificate, citizenship etc? Did Ma and Pa Kent claim a home birth and get him documented?

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      Probably, when did the original Superman even come? 40’s? Records were pretty lazy back then, especially in rural America.

      I don’t even know if being “illegal” was a thing, we might have still had an open immigration policy.

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      Depends on what comics. From what i read in some comic series he was actually birthed on earth and was able to run for president. While in other comic series he came as a baby and was adopted ( which, if unknown origins, means us citizenship iirc ).

      Edit: not sure why im getting downvoted. I said what is true, that in most comics he’s a baby that came from krypton, and due to us laws was basically adopted as a us citizen. Doesnt make him less of an immigrant…

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        I don’t think they adopted him as in a legal process, I think they just pretended that he was their biological son. You can’t just go to the court and be like “We found a baby, can we keep it?”. They could have surrendered the infant to law enforcement and then petitioned to adopt it, but afaik this never happened the Comics, Movies or TV Shows (including the one Dean Cain was on). So while it’s true that he was a US citizen, it was because the Kent’s lied about his origin.

        From what i read in some comic series he was actually birthed on earth and was able to run for president.

        If you are referring to Kalel/ Calvin Ellis from Earth 23, he wasn’t born on Earth either. He was born on Krypton like the other Supermen.

        The point that GaMEChld and James Gunn are making is that even if Kal-El was made a legal citizen he is still very much an immigrant (and technically an illegal Alien) and none of that matters one single bit. Being born on U.S. Soil to American parents doesn’t make you a good citizen and being born somewhere else doesn’t make you a bad one.

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        That is only the story in a couple of comics of the 90’s.

        Since its conception in the 30’s, Superman has always been an illegal immigrant from Krypton.

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          Correct indeed. Not sure why im getting downvoted though.
          He was an immigrant in most comics, yes. But not illegal lol

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            Would he not be considered an illegal alien? It’s not like he was sent to the US under standard procedures. He was basically dumped at a US homestead.

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    If the only thing Cain has to whine about in 2025 is denying Superman’s leftist origins written by depression era immigrants, he’s really got nothing to complain about or is trying to distract from some bullshit or sell something

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    Cain voted for Bill Clinton twice, and voted for Al Gore in the 2000 United States presidential election, the latter of which he later said he regretted.[21] He supported John McCain in the 2008 election, and supported Rick Perry in the 2012 election.[30] In 2016 and 2020, he endorsed and voted for Donald Trump.[31][32] He also endorsed him for the 2024 election.[33]

    In 2018, Cain was elected to the board of directors of the National Rifle Association of America.[34][35]

    -Wikipedia

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    I’ve never cared about anything superman related because it is just the most boring premise of a character to me. what’s the best way not get lumped in with idiots like this?

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      If the premise of a superman story is “strong guy fight strong guy,” then yeah, not very interesting. What I’d prefer to see is a story that explores what having superheroes around does to humanity. What happens when a kid copies Superman and jumps off a building, and doesn’t get caught? What happens when police expect a superhero to do their job for them? At what point does Superman decide to step away because he thinks he’s causing more harm than good?

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        What I’d prefer to see is a story that explores what having superheroes around does to humanity.

        The Boys, basically.

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          Perhaps, but less cynically.

          All Star Superman is kind of my yardstick for a great Superman story. It gives Superman a challenge he can’t simply punch his way out of, and spends most of its time simply exploring how he moves through the world.

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            Meanwhile the X-men have been around since the 1960s exploring all kinds of stories about how the greater population treats mutants. Including the recurring stories of Mageto’s “We are better than them Charles” while Professor X is like “can’t we all get along?”

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          Maybe my memory is tainted because I tried to read the comic version of The Boys somewhat recently, but Watchmen is a much more mature exploration of the same topics.

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    Well, you can fuck off Dean Cain.

    Superman is an assimilated Jewish diaspora immigrant.

    “Name?”

    “Kal-El”

    “Clark Kent, got it.”