Mitt Romney might just be the only member of the GOP with at least a single honest bone in his body.
Still an evil fuck.
The least evil fuck is still an evil fuck.
Yeah, its just nice when they’re honest about it.
US republicans will be like: “8 men should own this country and everyone else can die in the gutter”. US democrats will be like: “We need to reframe the conversation about the lived experiences of so many of our constituents, and reach solutions that include these realities [policies not different from those above]”.
Democrats are evil fucks too. But not evil enough that I’m going to give Mitt Romney any credit.
They’re evil enough. If complete support for yet another genocide isn’t “evil enough” I wonder what might do it.
This isn’t a statement rooted in honesty or morality. This is saying the quiet part out loud.
So that’s who the democrats will run in 2028
Well we’ll have an actual primary if there’s an election so if he gets through a democratic primary, that’s on democrat voters. I also don’t think he wants to run.
very funny to see the results of the last few dem primaries and still think that voters choose who the candidate will be
Voters not seeing that they’re getting played is its own problem. DNC can push whoever, up to voters to decide whether to follow or push back.
The RNC tried to push Jeb or Rubio in 2016, Republicans put in Trump instead.
I guess I am going to give my kids access to my VPN I don’t trust the government at all any more
Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s
The more likely reason is that it’s a social media company that the government currently has zero control over. Being owned by a (Taiwanese?) company the US can’t ask them to track data and the CIA/FBI can’t fill it with propaganda or whatever else they want.
Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s
But are they?
I know they are on Fediverse sites, but is it really being discussed on Twitter and Facebook?
Reddit, twitter, Facebook, Twitch, YouTube, tiktok and now Lemmy. I can’t think of a single social media site I’ve used in the last year that didn’t have people talking about Palestine in one way or another.
It’s why I doubt the claim that the US government is specifically trying to ban tiktok because of the Palestine/Israel situation. They wanted TikTok gone before the October 7th 2023 attack.
I believe it’s more likely a nation security issue being owned by a Chinese company than anything to do with Palestine whatsoever.
This just shows that you haven’t been paying attention. Pro-palestine content is moderated off those platforms as “anti-semitic”. Raise your hand below if reddit has banned you for being anti-zionist.
The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.
But truthfully, there are some places (such as isolated bubbles on Facebook, I would expect) where people honestly believe that opposition to Israel is based on antisemitism, being unaware of the genocide.
The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.
Right, which leads me to believe that they are implying that people are talking about the Palestine / Israel situation on other platforms.
I don’t go on FB often, but when I do I never see anything on there about Israel. I never go on Twitter, but from what I’ve heard any mention of genocide is met with accusations of antisemitism and the conversation is shut down.
It’s based in China, not Taiwan. (They are different countries, IMO.)
My apologies, I got the Asian countries all jumbled up in my head. The CEO of TikTok is from Singapore, but the parent company of TikTok (ByteDance) is Chinese.
So throw in a layer of national security concerns and it makes far more logical sense why they want to have China sell the US side of TikTok to an American owned company.
I still don’t think the Palestine situation has much of anything to do with what’s going on with the US governments distain for TikTok. They didn’t like it way before the Israel/Palestine situation kicked off again.
Palestinians getting to broadcast the horrors visited upon them by zionists is bad. /s
This is the real reason for the ban.
“National security” just translates to “public opinion of the war(s)”
The second someone starts showing American war crimes they are a security risk. But Americans somehow still believe in free speech.
What happened to us (Americans)? We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech. Now we’re burning books and outlawing news sources that don’t abide by the official propaganda. It’s sickening.
The US has always had propaganda and book burning, it’s just really good at projection. Hell, even D&D was attacked for being “satanic.”
Lol, classic American. Sees Americans doing bad things in America in a way that America has always done: “what are we, a bunch of Russians!”
I’m British, we recently had Brexit. It will be “we have book burning but it’s different to that book burning”, or something like that anyway.
So let me get this straight…
The Tiktok ban, that was first proposed in Jan 2020, and was banned from government devices in Dec 2022, was getting first drafts for laws banned in Dec 2022, another law was proposed to block in nationwide in Jan 2023, was further restricted in March of 2023, and was signed into law to banned Tiktok nation wide on April 2023 (to be completely removed by Jan 2025) is solely being done to censor information about a conflict that started in Oct 2023…
Yeah, check outs. 👍
If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor” with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.
If you really believe that when they say they are getting rid of tiktok it is for national security you’re a fucking rube, they have been taking away our freedoms for decades under the guise of national security, they sure as fuck dont consider it any sort of threat that any of the American social media platform would sell your data do a hostile foreign power. They want it gone because A) they cannot control what spreads on it, and B) their rich owners arnt profiting from it.
If you want to argue that any social media platform dying is a good thing, then i can at least sympathize (thought id argue this isnt a step in the direction of getting rid of social media in general), but if you think banning tiktok is about anything more than corruption you’re a rube.
If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor”
I won’t argue against that.
with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.
This part is illogical though. Claiming that due to a future event, we went back in time to block/and-or control a message makes no sense. This was my entire point. They are blocking it for many reasons and have been for years, but claiming the whole reason they spent years attempting to block it because of a single event that happened years later makes no sense.
single event that happened years later makes no sense.
The genocide of palestinians didn’t begin in 2022. And the above commenter is correct, the US wants full control of its social media in order to spread pro-US foreign policy views, and tiktok is a threat to that.
