Don’t confuse empire with colonialism. The Ottoman Empire took prisoners of war as slaves, but they did not do industrialized capture and resale of black people in Africa they rounded up. Europe also had rules such as the child of a slave staying a slave. Essentially turning black people into cattle.

There is a good reason that black people literally invented religions in which only white people are painted as the devil.

That shared crossposting comment section feature would come in really handy here.

Liberals laid the groundwork for years to prepare for Fascism with the police state and illegal wars. All Trump had to do was pull the lever.

I don’t care about any words anymore I care about policies. Look at Turkey shouting big words and then supplying with Israel 30% the oil they use.

If Zohran does BDS I don’t care what lip service he puts on.

It’s a great way to lose an election.

Shallow and pedantic

I did not really mind the Palestine comments because he basically denies the state of Israel in the way he framed it. But at the pace of Zohran is going now, all that will be done when he gets in power is building like 3 government ran supermarkets.

It’s not Zohver yet but it is going downhill.

The one which was rigged by Israel to choose between Israeli slaves or people who would resist the occupation.

That said, your logic basically justifies 9-11 and the shooting of Charlie Kirk, so I am not sure where you are going with this.

Compromising to libs has never worked. Look at Corbyn.

This is the New York police we are talking about. They are extremely racist and they are incredibly corrupt. These are some of the last people we would want to see Zohran cozy up to. Especially since he is far ahead in the polling and there seems to be no reason to say this.

I don’t see why he would need to say that. He’s leading plenty in votes. And the statement is factually accurate.

Around 3% before Zionist colonization

I think a lot of people have already given up on reform like Zoran have and believe that revolution is the only path to change which is probably true.

The problem is that you are only allowed to truly turn on someone when they start to compromise on their values. Usually with reformist they do that way before they start to win any elections. Zoran has made minor speech compromises but in his values he hasn’t really

I feel like a lot of leftists are preemptively shooting their load early before Zoran has committed any major mistakes. Do I believe Zoran will eventually fail because he starts compromising too much like Bernie Sanders Yes probably. But criticizing him this hard now is a tad unfair.

Compared to all other leaders, including China and Russia, Zohran’s position is actually far more uncompromising right now.

Bella Ciao

. My best guess here is that they’re keeping their goals grounded in terms of what is realistically achievable, relative to their material conditions…

Well yeah but Zohran kinda does the same here. He’s giving some small platitudes but in policy what it would mean is full on BDS. And Israel will never oblige by any international law similar to Apartheid South Africa. Zohran literally wrote BDS papers.

What happens in reality instead of equal rights kumbaya is the Apartheid will simply fall apart and most of the colonists will go back to Europe and the US because they don’t get free money anymore to colonize Palestinian land.

Zohran is not perfect but he’s not Matt Duss or Graham Platner. I don’t see a reason to actively oppose him yet.

Here you make a good point but don’t Palestinians resistance groups also advocate for an equal-rights solution?

Zionism by its very definition means not supporting equal rights, because it’s based on Jewish surpremacy. Zohran says he will support sanctions on Israel until it abliges by international law. Which we both know Israel will never do.

This is giving Israel a condition which we know it will never abide by. It’s like saying “I support China’s right to exist as a neoliberal capitalist country”.

Israel is by definition not a state with equal rights. This is a great way to answer the question to statisfy libs while also showing the issue with Israel: their Apartheid. Which is the raison d’etre of Israel as a Jewish ethnostate. Adding the equal rights part means believing Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.

Thank you for finding this quote. It’s certainly not a great look. He does specifically condemn the action of killing of civilians. Which is lingo similar to how Europe recently condemned Israeli bombings on Qatar, while not condemning Israel itself but it’s not a great look.

He has another one where he says he supports Israel’s right to exist, but not as a Jewish state, but as a state with equal rights for everyone. Which in practice means that he doesn’t believe Israel has the right to exist, but it’s a great way to answer the question in a way that satisfies libs.

That said, I don’t think it’s possible to do anything about the October 7 libs without doing any of this kind of dodgy answering.

Mamdani has so far never condemned any Palestinian resistance groups* nor supported Israel. The others have.