• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    You’re not born knowing the difference between “fuck” and “birthday”…

    You learn those words, you learn that one is “special” and comes with intense emotional connections , then it goes to the special language center

    If I told you to pretend “apricot” meant “asshole”, it might work a little

    If I raised you from birth with the correct usage of the English language except those two words were reversed in every instance …

    You’d get stronger and tougher by yelling apricot, and calling someone an asshole would be silly, but not insulting.

    But while Tourettes can involve that language center, it doesn’t have to. It’s a square/rectangle thing. Like how some people only make a syllable or two. And others scream whole ass sentences to the point others think an actual conversation is happening.

    I did almost mention that, but it’s one of those things that are often oversimplified and needs a lot of asterisks

    Quick edit:

    “You could train a child to _____” is/was kind of a joke in psychology because it’s about what you could actually do. But under no circumstances would it be ethical to do.

    Psychology is a very young field, and the first couple decades…

    Ethics wasn’t really a big concern.

    I didn’t mean I could take a 9 year and convince them “that’s my purse” was a swear word, it was a tongue in cheek joke that an infant raised in an unethical experiment would believe it.

    We can’t actually do a lot of studies we want, so it’s kind of a gallows humor thing.

    But it would be possible.

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      9 days ago

      If I told you to pretend “apricot” meant “asshole”, it might work a little

      Maybe the first of those experiments could have persisted for a while with a plan like that, but otherwise it’s an untested hypothesis that I don’t have particular reason to believe. Part of the conditioning around swear words comes from how you’ve seen other people react to them. If you put the test subject in a big group that was prompted to respond to “apricot” as if the person had said “asshole” and conditioned the person like that for a long while, that might work better than the subject just pretending. But it might be hard to do for long enough.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minced_oath

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        Man, if you’d have read one more sent you wouldn’t have needed to type a paragraph…

        If I raised you from birth with the correct usage of the English language except those two words were reversed in every instance …

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          No I still don’t believe that. It would work if you got everyone I met as a kid (such as teachers, schoolmates, and strangers) to also act as if the two words were switched, since then I’m basically growing up speaking a nonstandard English dialect with different swear words. It’s unclear that you could do it single handedly.