I’ve seen the occasional nonimage post here and didn’t know where else to ask this.
On another forum, a downvoter of things, with apparently support from other accounts, revealed that they are downvoting things ‘because they have to do with ai’. I have heard from an admin that they have that same problem here.
But when I look it up and try to find a reference for who they are, the closest thing I come up with is Luddite, which refers to people who generally hate technology. I know antifa people are proudly antifa; same with anarchists. But what is this ‘anti ai’ type of person that seems to have started cropping up? I asked the person directly, but unknown whether they will respond with an accurate reference.
Reminds me of vehement transphobes specifically joining trans communities so they can downvote things; except instead of polar opposite of lgbtq, it is that equivalent except toward ai, creations of ai, and ai community. Encountered it just today and seeking a term to place on what is apparently ‘the enemy’ to this exact niche we are in.
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If they hate technology in general, they’re luddites.
If they hate AI for all the good, legitimate reasons to hate the current “AI” trend, they’re just rational.
You might want to look up why the luddites hated technology.
What about the irrational haters?
I believe the technical term is “idjit.”
Luddites don’t hate “technology” in general, they had (and have) specific targets.
Meanings change. People don’t usually refer to the specific group of political dissidents worried about the cotton gin when they say it. Just like if you were to call an authoritarian dickcheese a Nazi.
Thanks to this post, I’m going to adopt the title of Butlerian!
I worked in telecom for years, and recently left because my company decided to automate out a bunch of positions by using their shiny new AI. It suggested carrying 300 Amps at 50 volts (DC) several hundred feet with 14 gauge cable. (Electricians, go ahead and laugh.)
I went back to school, learning IT support. Most of my classmates are fresh out of high school, and they’re all using Chat GPT like my generation uses Google. But instead of googling the answer and then figuring out how to make it work and testing the results, they just stop.
Chat GPT says to use this config? They use it. Of course it doesn’t work.
Over and over, I have classmates asking me why their Copliot generated code isn’t giving them the right answer, or why their server process is failing to start.
I fear for the safety of a world where the tech support is provided by people who never learned how the tech runs, never learned to read, test, experiment, fail, and try again…
So yeah, Butlerian. points at my face
tho im definitely on the side of the good ais, i know exactly what you are talking about. Had a guy begging me to go over his code, which he had gotten from chatGPT, which didn’t work. Was extremely annoying. Like all my effort learning coding myself is so I can troubleshoot this guy casually asking chatGPT whatever not wanting to learn coding himself.
and that’s not even getting into the rampant theft involved in AI image generation
Maybe find another instance to regurgitate your bulshit in
It’s the simple truth, and the sooner we grapple with these issues the sooner we can make AI better for everyone
Butlerian Jihadis
i’m also adopting the term Butlerians. thank you
Proud luddite here. The original luddites destroyed machinery owned by capitalists which threatened their jobs. The choice was either destroy the machines, or stand by and become unable to feed your family while a rich man gets richer.
I have no opposition to technology which is used for good, and whose control is placed in the hands of the workers. Your self-hosted AIs are fine, although I do ask that you only use energy intensive processes if you have solar panels. After all, this planet is the only one we’ve got. At our current rate of pollution, soon the world will only be inhabitable to AI.
But I downvote anything promoting corporate AI designed to replace people’s jobs. I am all for replacing human jobs, if the humans get to relax and live comfortable lives afterward. But I am against replacing jobs if we choose to have a society where you need a job to live. That’s not nature, it’s a choice we make as a society. The minute you automate someone’s job, you do necessarily admit that society doesn’t need that person’s work to get by. The only reason they shouldn’t get to put their feet up and take it easy is political. And politically, we have decided instead what happens is they die. That’s unacceptable, and until it changes, we can’t afford to have job replacing machines.
The minute you automate someone’s job, you do necessarily admit that society doesn’t need that person’s work to get by. The only reason they shouldn’t get to put their feet up and take it easy is political. And politically, we have decided instead what happens is they die.
I have been trying for years to put this into words when discussing capitalism & technology, but I’ve never come across something so succinct. Thank you.
You might want to check out Technocracy, it was designed specifically to deal with this issue.
I’m a soulist. Soulists are always saying things like that. It’s the best version of leftism.
The minute you automate someone’s job, you do necessarily admit that society doesn’t need that person’s work to get by
I think this doesn’t seem right. If society did not need that labor there would be no need to automate it. The work needs to be done but the one who needs it does not want to pay to get it.
Yeah that’s the way it was before their job was automated. But now you don’t need them to work.
You should probably check out Technocracy, it was designed specifically to deal with job loss due to automation.
“People who used to make a living doing erotic commissions”
John/Sarah Conner
Yeah. Just “the resistance” is also fine. Or just “surviving humans”.
AIn’ts
I do believe the term is “luddite”, or “luddA.I.te” if you want to be hip and cool.
I don’t know. What do you call people who laugh at you behind your back?
People laughed at Picasso and Monet and Michelangelo and Keith Haring etc.Tbh, luddite fits really well considering they only became associated with being Anti Tech once they started burning down Lace making factories since the advent of the Lace machine started taking high paying craftsmanship jobs away because a machine could produce what they did for cheap. Which, is as close to a perfect match as you’re going to get in the real world
I still call them Luddites. Their arguments are so similar, half the time I’m not user if I’m a victim of a troll.
Using Greek, Misautotechnicist.
Auto- Self
Tehkne- Skill/craft
-ic of, belonging to
Autotechnic = Technology that is of itself.
Miso- hate
Misautotechnic - Hates technology that is of itself.
Misautotechnia - Hatred towards technology of itself.
And lastly turn it into an idea…
-ism idea of
-ist person/thing of the ism/idea
Misautotechnicism - The idea of hatred toward technology of itself.
Misautotechnicist - One who subscribes to that idea. I.e. A personwho shows hatred toward technology that is able to act on its own.
Technocogitotomist
IAphobe since they are scared of the AI
